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Livingston: Who did you learn things from?<br />

Joshua Schachter 231<br />

Schachter: Albert, the guy I mentioned. I learned a lot from Fred Wilson of<br />

Union Square, certainly. I learned a gre<strong>at</strong> deal from my Morgan folks. I learned<br />

a hell of a lot about how to understand problems. It was rough sometimes, but<br />

they pushed me far. My coworkers <strong>at</strong> Morgan were smart people. One of the<br />

people we worked with won the Nobel Prize for economics while I was there. It<br />

was a fast, smart environment.<br />

I remember when I interviewed <strong>at</strong> Google the first time around and they<br />

were making derog<strong>at</strong>ory comments about where I worked: “Well, here you’ll<br />

get to work with PhDs and computer scientists.” And I’m like, “I already do.”<br />

Livingston: So it didn’t work out when you interviewed for a job <strong>at</strong> Google?<br />

Schachter: I went out there once and was rejected because I didn't know C++.<br />

Livingston: Was there ever a time when anyone tried to trick you or take<br />

advantage of you?<br />

Schachter: Yes, but it would not be polite to talk about it. There were several<br />

cases of people wanting to get equity in advance of other people, or weird deals.<br />

Livingston: As a new startup founder who has never done a deal or negoti<strong>at</strong>ed,<br />

do you think you need to be careful of getting taken advantage of?<br />

Schachter: In general, I found VCs to be significantly politer than the folks I<br />

worked with. The worst they did was not call me back. I’d never hear from<br />

them again. Brad Feld does a nice blog talking about how the VC process<br />

works. He says they never call you back to say no—they don’t want to close the<br />

door in case they want to open it again, but they don’t want to actually give you<br />

a response. Very few VCs actually said, “Sorry, we’re not interested.”<br />

Livingston: How did the process of starting your own company and then selling<br />

it change you?<br />

Schachter: It pushes you far. You learn a lot. I did a round of funding, I was<br />

writing code, I was hiring people, chief architect designer, negoti<strong>at</strong>or, you name<br />

it. I did all of it, for the most part.<br />

When Albert got up to speed and was working full-time, he did a gre<strong>at</strong> deal<br />

of work there as well.<br />

Livingston: Wh<strong>at</strong> surprised you most about having your own startup?<br />

Schachter: It’s a combin<strong>at</strong>ion of sudden freedom to run things as you please<br />

and crushing responsibility in which you know you have to do certain things in a<br />

certain way <strong>at</strong> a certain time. Th<strong>at</strong> eradic<strong>at</strong>es all of th<strong>at</strong> freedom. You become<br />

a robot on rails. You know wh<strong>at</strong> you have to do and you are working in a certain<br />

direction.<br />

Maybe other people are different, but I think th<strong>at</strong> every step was sort of the<br />

inevitable, inexorable progress due to the previous steps in the p<strong>at</strong>h. It’s not like<br />

I had no choice, but everything I did was the only choice because it was the only<br />

thing th<strong>at</strong> made sense <strong>at</strong> the time. It’s not th<strong>at</strong> long ago, but no regrets, th<strong>at</strong> was<br />

the p<strong>at</strong>h to take. Everything th<strong>at</strong> had to be done was done.

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