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86 <strong>Founders</strong> <strong>at</strong> <strong>Work</strong><br />

well right away, often. It was a precursor to Windows in the days when the PCs<br />

weren’t powerful enough to do it. So for all of its advancing the art of things and<br />

cool stuff they did, it wasn’t its time, and they ended up selling it off to make<br />

some money, and they ended up going belly up. It was bad all around.<br />

Wh<strong>at</strong> I do realize is there are advantages to selling <strong>at</strong> a peak. You don’t know<br />

when the peak is. I know people who sold their businesses when everybody<br />

thought you were crazy. “The business is going through the roof; why are you<br />

selling now?” And in hindsight, of course, it turned around. Six months, a year<br />

l<strong>at</strong>er, the business started crashing. They didn’t get the peak, but they came<br />

pretty close.<br />

There are some people to whom it’s worth taking the risk, because you risk<br />

going for the big one, and, in a portfolio, th<strong>at</strong>’s good. But as they say on Wall<br />

Street, the bulls make money, the bears make money, but the pigs get slaughtered.<br />

In other words, don’t be greedy. Whether you think things are going up<br />

or things are going down, you can make money going both ways. But, if you are<br />

piggish, are greedy, th<strong>at</strong>’s when you have problems; you’ll be irr<strong>at</strong>ional about<br />

th<strong>at</strong>.<br />

It is worth it sometimes, if you can do it, to reach for the stars. Microsoft<br />

didn’t reach for the stars. Microsoft was step by step by step to where they got,<br />

and it was profitable all the way to it. So th<strong>at</strong>’s the traditional way of doing it.<br />

The Google, Netscape way, those things, sometimes it works, and sometimes—<br />

usually—it doesn’t. But sometimes it does, and the payoffs are incredible. But,<br />

if you’re a business person who wants your business to succeed, as a business,<br />

because you like th<strong>at</strong> business, you take a different view. So the risk profiles are<br />

different.<br />

A lot of people make money because they’re very good <strong>at</strong> timing. We were<br />

close. If we hadn’t been sued, I would have done pretty well financially, because<br />

Bob and I owned most of the company <strong>at</strong> the time. And we would have had an<br />

interesting next step, going into wh<strong>at</strong> was probably the leading online business<br />

<strong>at</strong> the time. Maybe it would have ended up into the Internet or something, or it<br />

would have made the jump better. Who knows? But it didn’t happen.<br />

Livingston: Do you have any regrets? Th<strong>at</strong> one was out of your hands.<br />

Bricklin: Yeah, it was out of our hands. If we had been able to settle in advance,<br />

the thing would have closed, and we would have made a lot of money, and we’d<br />

have a bigger house, and wh<strong>at</strong>ever. But, you know, as I always tell people, here<br />

it is, 25 years l<strong>at</strong>er, and you’re still interviewing me. There’s fame and fortune. I<br />

didn’t get much fortune out of it, but, on the other hand, the fame has basically<br />

given me a meal ticket ever since, and I learned a lot from it, and the rest of my<br />

life has been pretty good. All in all, I can’t complain. I did a lot better than I<br />

ever expected to, in all sorts of ways. So there are no regrets about th<strong>at</strong>. I mean,<br />

each thing, you think, “Well, if I had put this fe<strong>at</strong>ure in, it would have been<br />

better.”<br />

Livingston: Do you remember any disagreements th<strong>at</strong> you and Bob had?

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