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Paul Graham 217<br />

Livingston: So a few months l<strong>at</strong>er after this horrible low period, you have a<br />

gre<strong>at</strong> high period because you get bought by Yahoo. How did th<strong>at</strong> happen?<br />

Graham: We especially wanted to get bought by Yahoo. If you had asked us,<br />

“Who do you want to get bought by?” we would have said, “Yahoo.” In fact, we<br />

did say th<strong>at</strong>; we kind of spread the word th<strong>at</strong> we saw Yahoo as the ideal acquirer.<br />

We’d tried to do an online demo for Yahoo about 6 months before. We<br />

could do demos by phone where we’d talk people through editing a site and we<br />

could see from the log files where they were clicking. I tried to do a phone<br />

demo for Tim Koogle in the fall of ’97, but he couldn’t even get to our server. It<br />

turned out some router was hosed halfway between us and them.<br />

The way we really got onto their radar screen was through Ali Partovi. He’d<br />

had Robert and Trevor as teaching assistants in CS classes <strong>at</strong> Harvard a few<br />

years before. He had a startup called LinkExchange th<strong>at</strong> was talking to Yahoo<br />

<strong>at</strong> the time, and their VC was Mike Moritz, who was also Yahoo’s VC. In the<br />

end they got bought by Microsoft instead, but not before they’d told Yahoo<br />

about us.<br />

Livingston: How did it go with Yahoo?<br />

Graham: We liked them. They were like us. They had hacker values, basically.<br />

They were from gradu<strong>at</strong>e programs in computer science too. They were our<br />

tribe of people, not these weird business people we kept having to deal with.<br />

Plus they weren’t jerks about the acquisition. So many companies play hardball<br />

in acquisitions. It’s so stupid. Don’t they realize th<strong>at</strong> the people they’re<br />

trying to squeeze are going to have to work for them afterward? Yahoo was very<br />

upstanding about the deal. They didn’t require any vesting, for example. We<br />

could have quit the day after the deal closed. But because they’d been good<br />

guys, we worked hard to make the acquisition work out well for them.<br />

It did, too. Yahoo made a lot of money from this software. When you tell<br />

people you sold a startup to Yahoo in 1998, they get this knowing look, like you<br />

sold someone a bag full of air for a hundred million dollars, but Viaweb was a<br />

real money-making acquisition for them.<br />

Livingston: Wh<strong>at</strong> was the most surprising thing about being acquired?<br />

Graham: For me the most surprising thing was the day the deal was going to be<br />

announced. There was a point where I had to change our front page to read<br />

Yahoo instead of Viaweb and then it really hit me. Viaweb is gone. Viaweb<br />

doesn’t exist anymore. Th<strong>at</strong> was so weird. And I told myself, “Look Paul, don’t<br />

get sentimental. You built this thing to sell it. Th<strong>at</strong> was the whole point, and<br />

now you’ve sold it, so stop whining.” But boy, it was strange to think th<strong>at</strong> when<br />

I clicked on “publish” and replaced the Viaweb front page with the Yahoo front<br />

page, Viaweb would never be seen again.<br />

It was also kind of weird th<strong>at</strong> when the deal closed, we all became Yahoo<br />

employees. It was like one of those dreams where you have to go back to high<br />

school. Up till th<strong>at</strong> point we’d been independent, and then suddenly we were<br />

employees, with bosses. And the weirdest thing was, we, or I <strong>at</strong> least, actually<br />

started to think of them as bosses. Now wh<strong>at</strong>ever I did was either submitting or<br />

rebelling, whereas before it had been just doing.

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