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DISCUSSION<br />

CHAIRMAN BURNET: Thank you, Dr. Kirschstein.<br />

This paper is now open for discussion.<br />

Dr. Bodian.<br />

DR. BODIAN: I would like to point out, first<br />

of all, that some years ago we also attempted<br />

to use gamma globulin to block intramuscular<br />

inoculation. We found quite satisfactory blocking<br />

effects, which seem to be in contradiction<br />

to the results that Dr. Kirschstein has reported.<br />

I wish to emphasize, however. that at the National<br />

Institutes of Health, they were using a<br />

minimum of 7.5 logs of virus, whereas in those<br />

days we were lucky if we had spinal cord pools<br />

that reached 5.5 logs. Therefore, I think one<br />

should be careful in assessing the lack of an<br />

inhibiting effect of the gamma globulin to realize<br />

that the relationship of virus dose and<br />

antibody is fundamental. This is a point we<br />

keep coming back to year after year, irrespective<br />

of the route of inoculation.<br />

As far as the interpretation of the rest of<br />

Dr. Kirschstein's story is concerned, I feel a bit<br />

uncomfortable about assuming that the intramuscular<br />

route is illustrating a different property<br />

of the virus as compared with intraneural<br />

inoculation, although the evidence certainly suggests<br />

it. I believe that Types 2 and 3 viruses<br />

were represented by rather fewer monkeys than<br />

were represented with Type 1, and it is known<br />

that infection rates by the intramuscular route<br />

are quite variable.<br />

It seems surprising, certainly, that the Type<br />

1 virus of all three workers should have the<br />

same apparent ability to do better by the intramuscular<br />

route. I should not have expected<br />

it, but perhaps I am wrong.<br />

One distinctive pathogenic property which I<br />

believe seems to be clearly established by Dr.<br />

Kirschstein's work, and reported by others today,<br />

is the property of spreading of virus within<br />

the CNS.<br />

After beginning multiplication in the central<br />

nervous system, it appears that some of these<br />

strains are more capable of spreading throughout<br />

the nervous system than others., and it seems<br />

to me that this characteristic is fairly well established.<br />

The difference between spreading<br />

in the nervous system and spreading from the<br />

muscles to the spinal cord is something I am<br />

not entirely clear about in my own mind.<br />

DR. MOYER: 1 should like to present two tables<br />

which, though slightly different, confirm essentially<br />

Dr. Kirschstein's results.<br />

Table 1 shows a number of Type 2 just mentioned<br />

by Dr. Bodian. These were not injected<br />

intramuscularly, but intravenously, and we attempted<br />

to induce trauma by injecting saline<br />

intracerebrally. All of these are Type 2 batches<br />

and paralysis did not occur in any of them, although<br />

in several cases lesions did appear.<br />

98<br />

TABLE 1.<br />

NEUROVIRULENCE IN MONKEYS<br />

INOCULATED INTRAVENOUSLY WITH<br />

<strong>POLIO</strong>V<strong>IRUS</strong> VACCINE<br />

TYPE I I<br />

LOT<br />

PAThOL:<br />

1 r<br />

NO.<br />

T'PE<br />

VIiS.%<br />

LO-<br />

SiALIE<br />

ML ROUTE<br />

PARAL.<br />

RATIO<br />

SIGNIF.<br />

LESIONS<br />

287 P 1 7.5 2x.5 IC 0/4 1+1?/5<br />

296 P 10 7.5 0/5 5/5<br />

298 P - " 0/4 0/4<br />

," 26.8 0/5 1/5<br />

" 10 7.5 0/4 2/5<br />

" 26.8 0/5 1/5<br />

*'lo base íO.<br />

" 10 7.5 - 0/5 2/5<br />

TABLE 2. NEUROVIRULENCE IN MONKEYS<br />

INOCULATED INTRAVENOUSLY WITH<br />

<strong>POLIO</strong>V<strong>IRUS</strong> VACCINE<br />

TYPES<br />

I AND III<br />

LOT DOSE PATEOL:<br />

NO V<strong>IRUS</strong> EL | ROUTE PARAL. SIGNIF.<br />

TYPE I LOG* TRI-IEKUNOL RATIO LESIONS<br />

166 10 8.6 1 |1 IR** 0/5 0/5<br />

SALINE<br />

163P 1 7.3 2x.5 IC 0/4 0/6<br />

184P 10 7.9 " " 0/5 2/5<br />

TYPE II:<br />

368 10 8.3 " n 0/5 1/5<br />

* To base 10. ** In gluteus.

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