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DISCUSSION<br />

CHAIRMAN LÉPINE: The papers by Dr. Sabin<br />

and Dr. Ramos Alvarez are now open for discussion.<br />

DR. MELNICK: Dr. Sabin showed that after<br />

the mass feeding in Toluca polio isolations<br />

dropped from 11 to 1 per cent, but not to zero.<br />

I should like to hear whether he might predict<br />

how long it will remain at this low level. Even<br />

if it dropped to zero, how long might it be before<br />

live viruses came into the community and caused<br />

reinfection? If wild viruses do come in, 1 believe<br />

Dr. Sabin's data showed that reinfections<br />

will occur. His paper indicated that immunity<br />

reached close to 100 per cent of the population<br />

by the age of four. Yet, even in this community,<br />

the immune mothers carried poliovirus to the<br />

extent of about 5 per cent. The viruses which<br />

they carried, as I recall, belonged to all three<br />

polio types and not just to one.<br />

I should also like to raise the question of how<br />

we might prevent the reintroduction of polioviruses<br />

into mass vaccinated communities if we<br />

already know that immune persons can carry<br />

virus again, and perhaps again and again.<br />

DR. SABIN: The first marked reduction occurred<br />

after a single feeding of trivalent vaccine. The<br />

second feeding was given to only a small number<br />

of children, and was not a mass feeding.<br />

Whether or not the second trivalent feeding<br />

would have reduced the dissemination of polioviruses<br />

to a still lower level is something which<br />

may be expected but has not been demonstrated.<br />

But, as an indication of what nature itself does,<br />

we can look at the reported cases of poliomyelitis<br />

in the city of Toluca, which I think throws some<br />

light on the question. The pattern in Toluca,<br />

which is a city on trade routes with many people<br />

passing through it, is almost comparable to the<br />

pattern of measles. That is, you have one year<br />

with a high incidence and the next year with a<br />

very low incidence, followed by another year with<br />

a very high incidence.<br />

That has been the pattern of recent years.<br />

This indicates that even after a period of high<br />

410<br />

natural dissemination, which is associated with a<br />

high incidence of paralytic cases, there develop<br />

enough resistant intestinal tracts to stop the dissemination<br />

of the Type 1 poliovirus responsible<br />

for most of the clinical cases to such an extent<br />

that the following year there are very few cases<br />

-when I say very few, two to three has been<br />

the pattern-until additional children who are<br />

not immune come into the community.<br />

The point about the mothers: I myself remarked<br />

that it seemed to me somewhat peculiar<br />

that, in a population in which presumably they<br />

would be exposed repeatedly, 5 per cent of the<br />

mothers should still be found to be carriers of<br />

poliovirus. But to be a carrier of polio is not<br />

an all-or-nothing affair as regards capacity to<br />

transmit virus. A person may become infected<br />

and yet may not be able to transmit.<br />

It is quite possible, on the basis of many previous<br />

studies, that the young children who are<br />

primarily infected and excrete large amounts<br />

of virus are chiefly responsible for continuing<br />

dissemination. They can disseminate it to a<br />

number of others, including mothers, who may<br />

then have only low levels of multiplication. This<br />

is also comparable to experiences which many<br />

bacteriologists and epidemiologists have recorded<br />

for dysentery. It is not enough to be a carrier of<br />

dysentery. A person who has a few dysentery<br />

bacilli is not a disseminator, a person who has a<br />

million per gram is a disseminator.<br />

The very fact that such marked reduction in<br />

dissemination could be achieved by a single feeding<br />

of trivalent vaccine indicates that we have<br />

to repeat it, as I said, in order to produce not<br />

only more immunization but also more intestinal<br />

resistance. Whether or not, and to what extent,<br />

such massive immunization will achieve, by continuing<br />

programs, the blockade to natural dissemination<br />

of polioviruses is something the virus<br />

laboratories will have to continue working on for<br />

the next few years and give us the answer. That<br />

available evidence warrants the attempt to eliminate<br />

naturally occurring polioviruses by this<br />

technique is to me beyond doubt,

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