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DISCUSSION<br />

CHAIRMAN GEAR: Thank you, Dr. Kitaoka.<br />

The last four papers presented, including the<br />

last two of the third session, are now open for<br />

discussion. Dr. Dick.<br />

Dr. DICK: I should like to ask Dr. Gard and<br />

Dr. Kimball a question.<br />

First, would Dr. Gard please give us more<br />

details of the monkey non-neurovirulent virus isolated<br />

from the paralytic patient? I should like to<br />

know whether the virus was recovered from cord,<br />

or from the stool of the patient.<br />

Second, I should like to ask Dr. Kimball if she<br />

has obtained any titrations to support her statement<br />

that Salk vaccination does not affect virus<br />

excretion. "Salk vaccination" I take to mean the<br />

use of a potent vaccine given in three injections<br />

properly spaced.<br />

DR. KIMBALL: These children had vaccine over<br />

a long period of time. We have no measure at all<br />

of the potency of the Salk vaccine used. We had<br />

numerous children in this study of Salk vaccination,<br />

who had no antibodies so I cannot speak at<br />

all for the potency of the vaccine. We only take<br />

the record of the vaccine that the children have<br />

had; then, if they do have antibodies, we feel that<br />

we cannot determine whether the antibodies are<br />

natural or Salk-induced.<br />

The Salk vaccine was, in general, reasonably<br />

recent because this study was done in 1958 and<br />

the children were all quite young.<br />

DR. GARD: With reference to the non-neurovirulent<br />

strains isolated from paralytic cases, my<br />

first personal experience was with virus isolated<br />

as early as 1935. It was a case described by Dr.<br />

Carl Kling, the first study published on the inapparent<br />

infection in monkeys. The material<br />

under study was lymph nodes. It was greatly disputed<br />

at the time, although I think his critics<br />

have come around later and have admitted that<br />

inapparent infections in monkeys may occur.<br />

Be that as it may, later, on at least two occasion,<br />

we have had isolations of virus from one<br />

202<br />

lethal case and one paralytic case, and isolations<br />

from stool, where virus identified as poliovirus in<br />

neutralization tests did grow in tissue culture but<br />

failed to bring down one monkey inoculated with<br />

each strain of virus.<br />

DR. BELL: I should like to comment on Dr.<br />

Gard's observation on the spread of polio infection<br />

from children less than two years of age, as<br />

contrasted with the spread from older children.<br />

With respiratory spread diseases, namely, pertussis,<br />

rubeola, and varicella, we find that the spread<br />

in families tends to be toward the same age<br />

groups. For example, if a school-age child<br />

brings it into the household, then the exposed susceptible<br />

school-age children are most likely<br />

infected, whereas the child in the crib and other<br />

very young children are the least likely to be<br />

infected. Dr. Gard's data indicate a different<br />

pattern of spread for polio infection.<br />

I wonder if Dr. Gard has made allowances for<br />

the age of the contacts who are exposed to the<br />

infected child?<br />

DR. GARD: I should not say that we have made<br />

any observations of such large numbers that we<br />

should like to generalize. I shall merely mention<br />

one case where our index child was a boy 11<br />

months old, who happened to be a twin. The<br />

two twin brothers spent the whole day together in<br />

a playpen. There were two older boys in the<br />

family, one aged three and the other five. During<br />

the observation period, which lasted about 12<br />

weeks-that was the time the index child continued<br />

to excrete virus-we could never isolate<br />

any virus from the twin brother, but we did<br />

isolate virus from the two older children. It was<br />

first isolated from the three-year-old brother who<br />

had developed a special affection for that particular<br />

twin,-the index child-and who used to pick<br />

him up out of the pen and hug him. One week<br />

later, virus was isolated from the five-year-old<br />

brother.<br />

On other occasions, however, we have observed,<br />

in connection with index children of about two,

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