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Discussion<br />

595<br />

If the chain of transmission is broken in a community<br />

like Cincinnati, we do have the problem<br />

next year, and the following, of new births in the<br />

community, which will produce a susceptible<br />

population who are no longer receiving the possibility<br />

of immunization by means of naturally<br />

occurring strains.<br />

I wonder what plans Dr. Sabin has, because<br />

this may be a model for other communities, and<br />

I think that what is involved here ought to be<br />

clear.<br />

DR. SABIN: With the strains with which we are<br />

working, I believe that the evidence required for<br />

licensure has been accumulated, and before our<br />

program was started I had a letter from the<br />

Surgeon General's office (contrary to some of the<br />

things that might have appeared in the newspapers<br />

this morning) which stated-and I have<br />

that letter on record-that with all the new data<br />

accumulated in 1959 and the additional data that<br />

are being accumulated in 1960, the Public Health<br />

Service should be ready to consider applications<br />

for licensure.<br />

Therefore, I do expect that if specific requirements<br />

for the product are put forth by the Public<br />

Health Service, the American pharmaceutical<br />

manufacturers, having something definite to work<br />

with and having already made great progress on<br />

the basis of the preliminary recommendations<br />

provided by the Public Health Service, should be<br />

in the position to make at least enough vaccine<br />

for the Cincinnati children.<br />

Now, the plan then would be to vaccinate children<br />

beginning at about two to three months of<br />

age. As I said before, I am not prepared to give<br />

any recommendations at this time on what to do<br />

with the newborn.<br />

So the plan would definitely be to continue<br />

with vaccination of the oncoming children<br />

through their private physicians and through the<br />

clinics. I think the private physicians in the<br />

United States can play the most important role<br />

in reaching the majority of the preschool-age<br />

children. Some of the children, however, will<br />

have to get their vaccine in clinics as part of<br />

special health department programs.<br />

I should like to make a comment at this point.<br />

It is not my intention to make any suggestions<br />

for programs in Sweden such as those Dr. Gard<br />

has announced. To each his own. But I should<br />

like to point out that we cannot disregard any<br />

type of poliomyelitis virus. Type 3 and Type 2<br />

viruses are important, and I think Type 2 can be,<br />

and is becoming, just as important as Type 3.<br />

I should also like to bring to the attention of<br />

this group information that at least was new to<br />

me and which I obtained while I was at the Moscow<br />

conference. I had thought that poliomyelitis<br />

was not a problem in China, but Dr. Ku, Fang-<br />

Cho, who attended the conference in Moscow, informed<br />

me that since 1955 it had become a problem,<br />

and that in 1958 they had a predominantly<br />

Type 2 poliomyelitis epidemic.<br />

This brought to my mind that in the same area<br />

of the world, in Okinawa, there had been a predominantly<br />

Type 2 outbreak before. The following<br />

year, in 1959, in Hanoi in North Viet<br />

Nam, there was an epidemic of about 1,000 cases<br />

of predominantly infantile paralysis, and the only<br />

20 viruses they isolated were all Type 2.<br />

You heard last year of the Type 2 epidemic in<br />

Nicaragua, I believe. We cannot disregard any<br />

type of poliomyelitis virus; in future programs<br />

we must take into consideration all three types<br />

of poliovirus vaccine.<br />

DR. DICK: This Conference has had a much<br />

more rational attitude than last year. Most people<br />

are prepared to accept that we still have a number<br />

of things to sort out. These problems are<br />

going to be solved by the type of study which<br />

Dr. Sabin and others are doing.<br />

.At the same time, I wonder whether here we<br />

have not a great opportunity for an international<br />

study. We have two enormous population groups,<br />

one highly immunized with live virus vaccines and<br />

the other partially immunized with Salk vaccine.<br />

If we could really concentrate on the use of inactive<br />

vaccine on this side of the world, we<br />

might have two comparative population groups in<br />

which we would get a real answer on efficacy.<br />

Now, this would perhaps involve two things, I<br />

think. It would involve an interchange of the<br />

methods of surveillance, from North America,<br />

and, from the USSR, the technique of how to get<br />

at 100 per cent of the population with vaccines.<br />

In countries with effective Salk vaccination<br />

programs, I think there is no immediate hurry to<br />

move over to live virus vaccines until we can guarantee<br />

that this method of immunization will be

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