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Discussion<br />

598 Discussion<br />

high level; and how he hopes to achieve this in<br />

an American community, I certainly would like<br />

to learn.<br />

I am reminded of the paper by Dr. Pundit from<br />

India, in which he made a careful study of smallpox<br />

in Madras. This is a disease that many of us<br />

claim has been eradicated quite successfully from<br />

many parts of the world. In spite of a program<br />

which Dr. Pundit claims is excellent for maintaining<br />

a high proportion of vaccination in the<br />

newborn children in Madras, smallpox breaks out<br />

repeatedly in that city because of the large number<br />

of immigrant children, aged one, two, and<br />

three years, who move into the city.<br />

Dr. Sabin, I believe, will have to look into this<br />

problem also in Cincinnati, if he hopes to really<br />

break the spread of polio infection in that city.<br />

But I certainly wish him well. He is one of<br />

the best-qualified people in the country, with a<br />

laboratory that can support this necessarily large<br />

amount of laboratory surveillance. I am also<br />

glad to welcome him into continuing activity in<br />

the poliomyelitis field, in spite of his declaration<br />

of changing to cancer on the first of January of<br />

next year.<br />

DR. PAGANO: In reply to Dr. Tobin's question,<br />

we did gather specific data concerning whether<br />

diphtheria-pertussis-tetanus inoculations given<br />

simultaneously with the oral administration of<br />

live poliovirus vaccine might have a provoking<br />

effect.<br />

In Philadelphia, where 850 children were given<br />

CHAT Type 1 virus, 815 W-Fox Type 3, and 335<br />

P-712 Type 2, approximately 90 per cent of the<br />

children also received, during the same routine<br />

well-baby clinic visit, a DPT inoculation; many<br />

also were given smallpox vaccination.<br />

We saw no evidence in this group of a provoking<br />

effect, for, as you will recall, there was no<br />

case of paralysis in a vaccinated child.<br />

Of course, allowance has to be made for the<br />

numbers of children involved, so that no conclusion<br />

can be drawn, but here is some evidence<br />

on that point.<br />

DR. KITAOKA: I should like to give Dr. Sabin<br />

my comment on which type of poliovirus will be<br />

prevalent in the future. It is true that poliovirus<br />

Type 2 was prevalent in the southwest Pacific<br />

areas, but Type 1 was more often recovered in the<br />

epidemic in Taiwan and Japan. According to our<br />

experiments, it can be foreseen which type of<br />

poliovirus will be expected in the next epidemic<br />

season on the basis of an estimation of the immune<br />

state of the community during the preepidemic<br />

season. My question is not which is<br />

best, monovalent or trivalent. I am very anxious<br />

to know which is the safer among the Sabin, Cox,<br />

and Koprowski's vaccines.<br />

DR. SOPER: I have been sitting through this<br />

with a great deal of interest, and I have not failed<br />

to be greatly impressed by the reports given this<br />

week.<br />

I feel like adding to Dr. Langmuir's greeting<br />

to the other eradicationists, because I, too, have<br />

been burned on the application of the eradication<br />

concept; although, on the other hand, I have<br />

seen some strikingly successful applications.<br />

I am impressed with the size and volume of vaccination<br />

reported from the USSR, and the suggestion<br />

of the possibility of eradicating poliomyelitis.<br />

I should like to point out, however, that as we<br />

get well into eradication programs, after the easy<br />

part of eradication has been done, we come to a<br />

point of invisibility of the disease, or the insect<br />

that we are eradicating, and at that low level we<br />

generally encounter the greatest difficulties.<br />

The term "epidemiology of a disappearing<br />

disease" has been introduced in recent years,<br />

particularly with regard to malaria, to emphasize<br />

the need for special methods to reveal and eliminate<br />

the final vestiges of infection.<br />

If Dr. Langmuir's observation is backed up by<br />

future findings, we may find that the reverse is<br />

true for poliomyelitis; its disappearance may<br />

come rapidly.<br />

I should like to point out to Dr. Sabin, however,<br />

that eradication cannot be successfully undertaken<br />

and maintained on a small scale. In a<br />

city with its constant daily outside contacts and<br />

movement of population in and out, it is very<br />

difficult to imagine a virus being completely<br />

eliminated.<br />

There is one word I cannot fail to utter in<br />

reply to Dr. Dick's implication that the poliomyelitis<br />

situation in the world is well under control<br />

with the Salk vaccine. This may be true for

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