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Discussion<br />

Discussion~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br />

Blood specimens were taken as follows: (1)<br />

immediately before feeding with virus; (2) the<br />

second specimen was drawn about six to eight<br />

not have my original data sheets with me, so I<br />

cannot say exactly how many of the women were<br />

pregnant during this study. As I recall, it was<br />

hours after administration of virus; (3) eight certainly not over one dozen. It is very difficult<br />

additional samples were taken at approximately to estimate at any one point how many given<br />

12-hour intervals, on four and a half to five consecutive<br />

women are pregnant. They do not always tell<br />

days; (4) four to six weeks after the you; they do not always know. Likewise, be.<br />

Type 1 virus was received, further blood specimens<br />

cause of the lack of these data sheets, I do not<br />

were drawn from each child, who was then<br />

immediately fed Type 3 attenuated poliovirus.<br />

Blood samples of 5 to 6 ml. were drawn from<br />

know whether the women were excreting or not.<br />

As far as I know, no attempt was made to isolate<br />

virus from the products of conception.<br />

head veins of the children. The serum and the<br />

clot were investigated separately. If necessary,<br />

Dr. Vonka can give more details about the<br />

method used.<br />

The available results show that no virus was<br />

found in any blood sample taken in the course<br />

of four and a half to five days after feeding with<br />

about one million TCD5o of LSc attenuated<br />

poliovirus strain.<br />

More detailed information on this investigation<br />

may be obtained from Zácek and his co-workers<br />

in our Institute for Sera and Vaccines in Prague.<br />

The results will be published as soon as possible.<br />

As you can see, there is evidence of a marked<br />

difference between the results presented by Dr.<br />

Kleinman and our results. However, it may be<br />

because we finished the samplings too early.<br />

Finally, as an officer of the Public Health<br />

Service, I should like to reiterate the philosophical<br />

remark of Dr. Kleinman, who is also a<br />

public health officer: that the main purpose in<br />

this study of viremia is to determine not whether<br />

it occurs or not, but whether it is harmless for<br />

human beings or not.<br />

DR. PLOTKIN: The reason for my question was<br />

that we have been unable, in triple-negative infants,<br />

to obtain uniform success with trivalent<br />

vaccine in contrast to success with monovalent<br />

vaccine, admittedly with different strains. However,<br />

and this point has been implied by Dr.<br />

Paul already, when one looks at the data of<br />

Dr. Cox and Dr. Kleinman, the response of those<br />

who were triple negative before ingestion of<br />

trivalent vaccine is certainly inferior to the results<br />

in the same type of people using monovalent<br />

vaccine.<br />

For example, in Dr. Cox's paper there was<br />

conversion from triple negative to triple positive<br />

in 49 per cent of triple negatives. In Dr. Kleinman's<br />

study, whereas children fed monovalent<br />

vaccines converted in 18 out of 18 cases, those<br />

fed trivalent vaccine converted to triple positive<br />

in only seven out of 16 cases. Consequently, I<br />

think that there is a difference between monovalent<br />

and trivalent vaccine and that the difference<br />

can be shown by isolating the triplenegative<br />

children from the others.<br />

DR. KLEINMAN: In reply to Dr. Plotkin's question,<br />

I am sure he knows that on the basis of our<br />

study we cannot say definitely whether the monovalent<br />

is better than the trivalent vaccine. For<br />

Type 3, there appears to be little difference in<br />

the efficiency of a monovalent preparation as<br />

compared to a trivalent preparation.<br />

The point that I wanted to make, from the<br />

public health standpoint, was that the trivalent<br />

preparation does appear to be a promising public<br />

health and immunological tool, with its greatest<br />

deficiency appearing in response to the Type 2<br />

component.<br />

I am sorry I do not have the answer to Dr.<br />

Plotkin's second question. I regret that I do<br />

DR. PREM: Yesterday I reviewed the data I<br />

have concerning the three abortions that 1 reported<br />

among the pregnant women who had<br />

been vaccinated with either monovalent or trivalent<br />

vaccine. Two of these three were women<br />

who were reported in Dr. Kleinman's study presented<br />

at the fifth session.<br />

Two of these three women had negative antibody<br />

titers before feeding. They responded to<br />

feeding with significant antibody increases. This<br />

negative pre-feeding status suggests that virus<br />

excretion in the stools and viremia did occur<br />

if the viremia data presented by Dr. Bauer can<br />

be applied-that is, viremia is present pre-

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