SEXIS WRONG

Profile of a Zoophile
Bill Brent Interviews Clive Grace
Bill Brent: W hat ’s the most common misconception that people
have about zoophilia or bestiality?
Clive Grace: The biggest misconception, I think, is that we do
it because we can’t get girls or boys. I think most of the
time, people assume we’re a bunch of sad bastards who
can’t get it up.
Bill: How easy, or how difficult, has it been for you to be open
about this aspect of your sexuality? Are you pretty out about
it?
just looked out the window and saw these horses. My
god, they were fantastic, magnificent-looking creatures.
And something in me just said, “Just go and see them.”
And that night, I snuck out of the house, and it was a
four- or five-minute walk to the field. And I guess I spent
many evenings creeping out of the house, going out to
the field and seeing these horses. It didn’t initially start off
as something sexual, but it pretty much segued into it.
Bill: How did that happen?
Clive: I’m very out about it; hence, I’m here. I guess it’s because
I’ve lived with it and done it for so long, I feel like
it’s just so ordinary. Like, I guess, people who do anything—S/M,
or you see queer stickers everywhere.
There isn’t a “zoo” sticker per
se. I wish I had a few, but, y’know, there’s
not a big “we fuck animals!” sticker. So,
if people ask, I generally try to present a
very thoughtful, sensible side to it.
Bill: What would you consider the formative experience for
you around discovering that you were into “non-human life
forms”? [Both laugh.] How did that happen for you?
Clive: Well, I guess what happened was that—I was getting
pretty confused at the time. I was feeling very strong attractions
and very strong urges toward animals. I really
What would you consider the
formative experience for you around
discovering that you were into
“non-human life forms”?
didn’t know how to deal with it. Even then, it was like,
“This isn’t normal—help!”
Bill: Sort of like same-sex stuff.
Clive: Oh, that happened—it happened on two occasions.
The youngest was when I was eight—I wasn’t really sexually
active by that point—and there was a female black
dog that lived down the alleyway where I was—one of
the neighbors’. I don’t know, just something in me really
wanted to be that dog’s puppy. I really wanted just to be
completely nursed and looked after by her.
And then—oh, gee—I used to travel into London a lot,
and I used to travel back home by train. And where we
lived, there was a field with horses in it. And one day, I
Clive: Yeah. There were no positive role models; there was
nothing—I didn’t even know where to look. I didn’t even
know what to find out, information-wise. So I just went
out to the fields and just stood there and petted them
and, y’know, talked to them. They’re very, very, very attentive,
by the way. If you ever go out to a field and talk to
horses, they’ll come around and look at you and interact
with you and sniff around and look for carrots or things.
In the end, I did actually bring things like apples to feed
them.
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