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BS: Most of our styles in writing poems―it’s the same as those used in Iran or in<br />

Arabic language or even in Turkish. All these nations have the same ways of writing<br />

poems.<br />

EM: And you mentioned that the meter, or the number of syllables in poems―Is<br />

this always the choice of the author, or do you have names for the length of lines or<br />

meters?<br />

BS: It starts from six to seven and goes up to 16; 16 is the top. It is the poet’s<br />

choice how to write. This we call it “the way” of the poem. But in Arabic language, there<br />

is something more complicated than our style. They call it bahar. Bahar means ‘the sea.’<br />

There are 16 oceans or seas in Arabic language. It is so very complicated and our<br />

Classical poets―Kurdish poets―used these bahars, like Melaye Cezîrî. It gives the<br />

poems more rhythm and more music, really. It gives the poems a sort of music. It is<br />

something like musical tones and the time in musical notes. Every sign in musical writing<br />

is dependent on the time, half or quarter. When we use this 16 or 14 we…well, two things<br />

control us in this measurement―the vowel and the consonant. (pause in interview)<br />

EM: When we paused, you mentioned the special form in Arabic that is very<br />

difficult. We are saying that for the length of a sentence―the line in poetry―the poet is<br />

limited by the vowel and consonant. What were your thoughts when you said that? You<br />

were going to say something else.<br />

BS: This is the basic thing. In Arabic poems and Kurdish poems, always in the<br />

area of the Middle East―this is the basic measure of a poem, the “way” of the poem.<br />

Because as you know, any speech in the world is based on vowels and consonants. So,<br />

when we try to analyze any line in traditional or Classical poems, you will find the same<br />

number from the first line to the final line. This is the simple way of measuring the<br />

poems. But in Arabic, as I told you, there are the bahars. They developed something<br />

more complicated from this basic thing, vowels and consonants. They derived 16 aspects<br />

of measurements or 16 different styles of measuring the sound, such as VCCCV, VCVCVC,

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