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EM: So a word has to exist already elsewhere so people understand? So you have
to use a word from a dialect that exists?
BS: Yes. I can give you an example about this thing. Like to say çend car tu
hati?―çend car, which means ‘how many times,’ çend car. In Zaxo they say çend car.
The last letter is r. Çend carA..tu hatî? Çend cara tu hatî? In Akrê or in Amedîya, they
say çend ca tu hati? The r is omitted now. Çend ca, which means çend cara; the r is
omitted. So if I’m writing a poem with 15, and I put çend cara, and it becomes 16, I’ll
take out çend cara and put çend ca, because it gives the same meaning. But çend ca, so
it’s one syllable less. There are a lot of examples which gives the poet some ability. It
gives the chance to vary.
EM: Yes. You said the end of the line is called qafîa.
BS: Yes. Actually, the qafîa will be nicer and more musical if the last two letters
are alike, not just the last one letter, as in ra. Like, you say bira, and the second line is
dira. It means ‘a lot of areas.’ And the third line is çira. Çira means ‘why’ in some
places. And you say, gira; it means ‘some people holding something.’ It is not just the a
but r and a. It makes the poem stronger and more perfect. And some poets use the three
last letters the same. This is so difficult because the alternatives will be less than one
letter, the alternatives of words that end in the same three letters. I try to use two letters. I
prefer to use two letters because society sometimes needs a lot of music of the poem, to
make them listen to you. This is one of our problems, when you have a message in your
poem. When you really care to make the people listen to you, you have to put something
in your poem to make them listen. Sometimes it is the meaning, some brave words or
sometimes the music itself. So I have to think in my poem, I have to dance in my poem to
get their attention to make them listen to what I’d like to say.
EM: On to a different subject. I believe you said something about a moment of
time that you were feeling something so strongly that you had to write the poem as free.
It was your first.
BS: Yes. It was the time I wrote my first free poem. Free of ‘way’ (form)