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ABSTRACT The Comic and the Tragic: a Reading of Aristophanes’ Speech in Plato’s Symposium Suzanne Obdrzalek At the close of the Symposium, we are left with a striking image: Aristophanes, Agathon and Socrates drink wine from a common cup, as Socrates argues that the skillful tragedian should also be a comic and vice versa. Readers of the Symposium might wonder whether this stricture can be applied to Aristophanes’ speech. With its grotesque depiction of the cutting of human bodies and the contortions of sex, Aristophanes’ speech appears pure comedy. In this paper, I argue that it is in fact fundamentally tragic: it presents humans as both incomplete and incapable of completion. Though Plato deliberately draws attention to the significance of Aristophanes’ speech in relation to Diotima’s—she twice makes seemingly anachronistic objections to it (205d-e, 211d)—it has received relatively little philosophical attention. Critics who discuss it typically treat it as a comic fable, of little philosophical significance (e.g. Dover 1966, Rowe 1998), or uncover in it an account of love which recognizes the value of human individuals as love-objects (e.g. Dover 1966, Nussbaum 1986). Against the first set of interpreters, I maintain that Aristophanes’ speech is of the utmost philosophical significance; in it, Plato sets forth a view of eros as the desire for completion, which is the starting-point for Diotima’s analysis. I argue against the second set that Aristophanes’ speech contains a profoundly pessimistic account of eros. Far from being a response to the individuality of the beloved, eros, for Aristophanes, is an irrational urge. In the first part of my paper, I offer an analysis of human nature as presented in Aristophanes’ speech. According to Aristophanes, humans are created both incomplete and aware of this incompleteness. In the second part of my paper, I offer a close reading of the physical transformations undergone by Aristophanes’ humans. I argue that Plato subtly indicates that while we may attempt to overcome our incompleteness through finding our other halves, this project is doomed to failure. It is not obvious how we might recognize our other halves; indeed, there is reason to doubt that they even exist. Furthermore, Aristophanes’ humans do not appear to seek their other halves, but rather to forget their state of primordial incompleteness by embracing any available partner. In the final part of my paper, I ask what goes wrong with Aristophanes’ lovers. Diotima, too, sees man as incomplete, but is hopeful that we can achieve completion through our relationship to the forms. I argue against Dover that what Plato rejects is not Aristophanes’ focus on love of particular individuals. Instead, the difficulty with Aristophanes’ lovers is their irrationality. Aristophanes’ lovers are not depicted as attracted to any qualities in their other halves beyond their ability to complete them. It is only when Aristophanes’ analysis of eros as originating in lack is wedded to Agathon’s emphasis on beauty that eros becomes rational and capable of resolution: in the ascent it is the initiate’s responsiveness to the beauty of a particular beloved that enables him to eventually love beauty itself (see, e.g., my 2010).
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THE INTERNATIONAL PLATO SOCIETY UNI
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MONDAY, 15 TH JULY, 2013 3 Eros and
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Monday 15 th July, 2013
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Eros and Life-Values in Plato's Sym
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Stephen Halliwell proposition that
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Stephen Halliwell principle of a un
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The Ethics of Eros: Eudaimonism and
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Yuji Kurihara final clause that sho
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Yuji Kurihara wonderfully beautiful
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ABSTRACT Il ruolo e l'importanza de
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Carolina Araujo if everything is en
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Carolina Araujo changing objects du
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Carolina Araujo Reeve, C. D. C. A s
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David T. Runia transported to the i
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David T. Runia given for why Plato
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Method, Knowledge and Identity Chai
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Lesley Brown ἀδελφοῦ ἢ
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Lesley Brown “reconnaître”,
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ABSTRACT The Kind of Knowledge Virt
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Annie Larrivée the Alcibiades, amo
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Annie Larrivée sense that he will
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Annie Larrivée toward a (irrecover
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Annie Larrivée bonheur comme étan
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Annie Larrivée Avant de clore mon
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Annie Larrivée PLATO [1997] The Sy
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Alexis Pinchard dépasser la mesure
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Alexis Pinchard exemple de nature m
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Alexis Pinchard intelligence capabl
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Alexis Pinchard vivant enfante enco
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Alexis Pinchard foncière ; et, tom
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Alexis Pinchard de sa parole vive,
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Alexis Pinchard Donc, quand les mor
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Stylistic Difference in the Speeche
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Harold Tarrant contemplate the poss
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Harold Tarrant Obviously the pervas
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Lettori antichi di Platone: il caso
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Margherita Erbì o parti della trad
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Margherita Erbì se non assoluto in
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Gerard Boter being”, which unites
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4. εἴπερ τῳ ἄλλῳ ἀ
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Plenary session Chair: Mary Margare
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Mario Vegetti Fin qui, secondo Diot
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Mario Vegetti oltreterrena delle id
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Mario Vegetti gnoseologica (oltre c
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Mario Vegetti NUCCI (2009): M. NUCC
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Plenary session Chair: Giuseppe Cam
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The Frame Dialogue: Voices and Them
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Narrazioni e narratori nel Simposio
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Lidia Palumbo l’ascoltatore. Gius
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Lidia Palumbo marcatamente che allo
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Matthew D. Walker happiness in, or
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Matthew D. Walker has brought him j
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Matthew D. Walker from fully identi
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Dino De Sanctis vista la sua straor
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Dino De Sanctis A differenza di Eup
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No Invitation Required? A Theme in
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Giovanni R.F. Ferrari those around
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Diotima and kuèsis in the Light of
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Anne Gabriel Wersinger This traditi
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Anne Gabriel Wersinger Bibl. BERNAB
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Phaedrus and the sophistic competit
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Hippias. 13 Noburu Notomi Since Hip
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speakers represents sophistic antag
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Eros sans expédient : Banquet, 179
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Annie Hourcade Sciou L’un des int
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Eros protrepōn: philosophy and sed
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Monopoly on seduction Olga Alieva A
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Olga Alieva of Chiron’s students
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Olga Alieva “worldly” passion i
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La natura intermedia di Eros: Pausa
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Lucia Palpacelli costretto a duplic
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Lucia Palpacelli la natura duplice
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Lucia Palpacelli sembra procedere,
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Philotimia and Philosophia in Plato
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Jens Kristian Larsen philotimia, wh
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Olivier Renaut suivre dans le domai
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Olivier Renaut La philosophia et pl
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Olivier Renaut Il s’agit ni plus
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Eryximachus Chair: David T. Runia
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Hua-kuei Ho are noteworthy here. Fi
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La medicina di Erissimaco: appunti
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The concept of harmony (187 a-e) an
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Laura Candiotto and wine to prevent
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Richard Stalley an appeal to what h
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The Realm of the Metaxy Chair: Beat
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Michel Fattal Dans la seconde parti
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Michel Fattal Moyen terme dynamique
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Perché tanta morte in un dialogo s
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La nozione di intermedio nel Sympos
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Cristina Rossitto 228 Esiste una so
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Reproduction, Immortality, and the
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ABSTRACT Socrates as a divine inter
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Why Agathon’s Beauty Matters Fran
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Gabriel Danzig describes the origin
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Giovanni Casertano sia φιλόσο
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Giovanni Casertano altre specie di
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Federico M. Petrucci dell'oplita e
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