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Edward C. Halper would be undermined by his climbing the ladder. 16 She would explain Alcibiades’ not climbing the ladder as a heroic stand to preserve his love of Socrates as an individual. This is not the character Plato presents to us in this dialogue. Instead, the Symposium shows Alcibiades evaluating Socrates by the same criterion Socrates uses to evaluate him, moral virtue: he is stunned by the degree of Socrates’ courage and self-control. He is in love with a moral virtue that exceeds anything he has encountered. What makes Alcibiades so puzzling is not his commitment to unintelligible experience, as Nussbaum imagines, but his appreciation of Socrates because Socrates has climbed the ladder. Moreover, he knows that philosophy is at the core of Socrates’ virtue. He may believe Socrates’ mad devotion to philosophy is an individual quirk (218b), but he knows that philosophy is not a hobby and that it is responsible for the moral virtue that makes Socrates so attractive. Alicibiades’ dilemma is that he cannot recognize the value of philosophy without himself pursuing it, but he cannot give up his political aspirations. His soul is divided. It is, I propose, as if Plato had anticipated Vlastos and Nussbaum and included a character designed to illustrate the disastrous consequences of taking an individual as the object of love. To be sure, Alcibiades and Socrates could simply agree that the pursuits of the other, though legitimate, are not for them. But, then, they would not engage in activities together. It is this latter, rather than wishing another well, that Plato (and Aristotle) take as central to a love relationship. For the same reason, if each of them takes the other as his end, their activities will not share the same end. Nor is the individual as an object of love any more attainable than the Good as an object of love. What makes the Good the more suitable object of a sustainable relationship is its universality: both lovers can pursue it as an end. The Symposium shows Socrates presenting a beautiful speech about love, a speech that nicely incorporates the insights of the previous speeches, but there is little of the direct engagement with interlocutors that is so prominent in other dialogues. The end of all the symposiasts is a universal, Beauty or Good, but they pursue it as individuals. Alcibiades helps the reader to see what is missing, for the reader recognizes that Alcibiades could engage Socrates in philosophical discourse but mysteriously chooses not to do so. And Alcibiabes wants to have Socrates’ knowledge for his own individual (political) ends, something that Socrates cannot pursue and share with him. Whereas Socrates speaks of a lover’s necessary ascent up the ladder of loves and sees its culmination is his individual communion with the Good, Alcibiades’ speech inadvertently makes clear the essential correctives, namely, that this ascent is not an individual endeavor but one best undertaken with another and that the other may, for no reason at all, be unable to undertake or complete it. The Symposium does not discuss whether it is better to pursue the Good jointly as lovers by creating discourses and speeches or to pursue one’s more private interests, but the contrast between Socrates’ joyous begetting of speeches with others and Alcibiades’ drunken debauchery and, despite the other revelers, his isolation is a dramatic endorsement of a suitably corrected version of Socrates’ account. Bibliography Belfiore, Elizabeth S. Socrates’ Daimonic Art: Love for Wisdom in Four Platonic Dialogues. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2012. Gagarin, Michael. “Socrates’ Hybris and Alcibiades’ Failure.” Phoenix 31 (1977): 22–37. Halper, Edward C. “Humor, Dialectic, and Human Nature in Plato” Epoché: A Journal of the History of Philosophy 15 (2011): 319–30. ------. “Plato and Aristotle on Friendship.” In Form and Reason: Essays in Metaphysics, 35–55. Albany, New York: State University of New York Press, 1993. Keyt, David. “The Mad Craftsman of the Timaeus.” The Philosophical Review 80 (1971): 230– 35. Nussbaum, Martha Craven. The Fragility of Goodness: Luck and Ethics in Greek Tragedy and Philosophy. 2nd ed. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2001. Reeve, C. D. C. “A Study in Violets: Alcibiades in the Symposium.” In Plato’s Symposium: Issues in Interpretation and Reception, edited by James Lesher, Debra Nails, and Frisbee Sheffield, 124-46. Washington, D.C.: Center for Hellenic Studies, 2006. 16 Nussbaum, The Fragility of Goodness, 198, thinks Alcibiades and Socrates represent two irreconcilable ways of knowing. She argues that Alicbiades’ seeing Socrates as an individual entails not only seeing his virtue but also seeing Socrates as a whole (p. 190). Her argument relies on Alcibiades’ using an image to describe Socrates (signaling that Socrates is not a fully intelligible universal) and declaring that he is going to speak the truth (214e-215b). My objection is that in the Apology Socrates claims to speak the truth (17b-c) and also uses an image to describe himself (30e). Further, she says nothing about the begetting in beauty that is the center of Socrates’ account of love. 380
Edward C. Halper Scott, Gary Alan, and William A Welton. Erotic Wisdom: Philosophy and Intermediacy in Plato’s Symposium. Albany, NY: State University of New York Press, 2008. Vlastos, Gregory. “The Individual as Object of Love in Plato.” In Platonic Studies, 3–42. Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1981. ------. Socrates, Ironist and Moral Philosopher. Ithaca, New York: Cornell University Press, 1991. 381
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THE INTERNATIONAL PLATO SOCIETY UNI
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MONDAY, 15 TH JULY, 2013 3 Eros and
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Monday 15 th July, 2013
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Eros and Life-Values in Plato's Sym
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Stephen Halliwell proposition that
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The Ethics of Eros: Eudaimonism and
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Yuji Kurihara final clause that sho
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Yuji Kurihara wonderfully beautiful
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ABSTRACT Il ruolo e l'importanza de
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Carolina Araujo if everything is en
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Carolina Araujo changing objects du
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David T. Runia transported to the i
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David T. Runia given for why Plato
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Method, Knowledge and Identity Chai
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ABSTRACT The Kind of Knowledge Virt
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Annie Larrivée the Alcibiades, amo
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Annie Larrivée sense that he will
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Annie Larrivée toward a (irrecover
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Annie Larrivée Avant de clore mon
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Stylistic Difference in the Speeche
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Harold Tarrant contemplate the poss
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Lettori antichi di Platone: il caso
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Margherita Erbì o parti della trad
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Gerard Boter being”, which unites
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4. εἴπερ τῳ ἄλλῳ ἀ
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Mario Vegetti Fin qui, secondo Diot
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Mario Vegetti NUCCI (2009): M. NUCC
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Plenary session Chair: Giuseppe Cam
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The Frame Dialogue: Voices and Them
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Narrazioni e narratori nel Simposio
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Lidia Palumbo l’ascoltatore. Gius
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Lidia Palumbo marcatamente che allo
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Matthew D. Walker happiness in, or
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Matthew D. Walker has brought him j
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Matthew D. Walker from fully identi
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Dino De Sanctis vista la sua straor
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Dino De Sanctis A differenza di Eup
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No Invitation Required? A Theme in
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Giovanni R.F. Ferrari those around
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Diotima and kuèsis in the Light of
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Eros protrepōn: philosophy and sed
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Monopoly on seduction Olga Alieva A
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La natura intermedia di Eros: Pausa
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Lucia Palpacelli costretto a duplic
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Philotimia and Philosophia in Plato
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Olivier Renaut suivre dans le domai
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Eryximachus Chair: David T. Runia
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Reproduction, Immortality, and the
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ABSTRACT Socrates as a divine inter
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Why Agathon’s Beauty Matters Fran
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I. Einleitung Die Poetik des Philos
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I. INTRODUCTION Tragedy and Comedy
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ABSTRACT Chi è il Socrate del Simp
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