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Body and Soul in Ancient Philosophy

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Three k<strong>in</strong>ds of Platonic immortality 159<br />

immortality. Indeed, Diotima makes it clear that some self-prolongations<br />

are “more immortal” than others (209c7). At the biological<br />

level, for example, you are reliant on the expectation of your descendants<br />

<strong>in</strong> every generation mak<strong>in</strong>g their own bid for immortality by reproduc<strong>in</strong>g,<br />

just as you did. Similarly, at the higher levels, the virtuous character<br />

that you <strong>in</strong>stilled <strong>in</strong> those you <strong>in</strong>fluenced will not necessarily pass<br />

to later generations, <strong>and</strong> the legal system you created may eventually be<br />

superseded. Immortality by proxy is, it seems, condemned to be<strong>in</strong>g always<br />

provisional <strong>and</strong> subject to renewal. Even if you were to achieve it<br />

– that is, even if your procreation were to cont<strong>in</strong>ue for ever – your immortality<br />

would have to be classed as a cont<strong>in</strong>gent rather than a necessary<br />

attribute: it would be true at best that your extended self never dies,<br />

but not that it is <strong>in</strong>capable of dy<strong>in</strong>g.<br />

Describ<strong>in</strong>g immortality by proxy <strong>in</strong> the Symposium, Diotima remarks:<br />

“… mortal nature seeks, so far as it is able to do so, to exist forever<br />

<strong>and</strong> be immortal. The only way <strong>in</strong> which it is able to do so is by<br />

giv<strong>in</strong>g birth …” (207d1–3; cf. 208b2 – 4). This can easily give the impression<br />

that Diotima is not committed to the immortality of the soul,<br />

on the grounds that if she were she could not also endorse the view that<br />

immortality by proxy is the only immortality available to us. To see what<br />

is wrong with that <strong>in</strong>ference, 17 we can compare the Timaeus’ account of<br />

immortality by self-def<strong>in</strong>ition. For there we are told someth<strong>in</strong>g very<br />

similar regard<strong>in</strong>g those who achieve this particular k<strong>in</strong>d of immortality,<br />

namely that “so far as it is possible for human nature to share <strong>in</strong> immortality,<br />

they <strong>in</strong> no way fall short of this” (90c2–4). Yet Timaeus has already<br />

made it explicit that, with or without <strong>in</strong>tellectual advancement,<br />

the rational soul is literally immune to dy<strong>in</strong>g (43d6 –7), which one<br />

would have thought to be a far more complete way of shar<strong>in</strong>g <strong>in</strong> immortality.<br />

Hence when Diotima places limits on what is possible for<br />

“mortal nature”, <strong>and</strong> when Timaeus similarly restricts what is possible<br />

for “human nature”, we must take them to be speak<strong>in</strong>g, not of what<br />

is possible for a soul, but of what is possible for the soul-body composites<br />

that we human be<strong>in</strong>gs are. It is as humans that we can be everlast<strong>in</strong>g<br />

only <strong>in</strong> so far as our progeny, biological or otherwise, will cont<strong>in</strong>ue to<br />

fly the flag for us <strong>in</strong> the human world, or (on the Timaeus alternative)<br />

17 Cf. Hackforth 1950. I have been guilty of mak<strong>in</strong>g such an <strong>in</strong>ference myself <strong>in</strong><br />

Sedley 1999, 310 n. 2. For a judicious overview of the issue, see Sheffield 2006,<br />

esp. 147 – 148. My po<strong>in</strong>t about the parallel usage at Ti. 90c2 – 4 has a partial antecedent<br />

<strong>in</strong> Luce 1952, 140.

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