January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

|1/6/05 07:02:08 AM|max hord|fernandina bch,fla||mhord@smurfit.com||||10|O.K.
you Liston fans.I know Sonny was a bad dude but how many times did you see him
come back after losing the edge in a fight?Think about Ali and even Leotis
Martin.|
|1/6/05 07:10:21 AM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|Patterson couldn't
find time to fight Cleve Willilams, Eddie Machen, Zora Folley, etc. but amazngly
his schedule was clear to fight Pete Rademacher -- WHO NEVER HAD ONE PRO FIGHT.
I find that amazing. Nice guy or no, Patterson was a coward when it came to
defending his title. |
|1/6/05 08:56:11 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|Sonny Liston was dominating against
Leotis Martin until he got hit. Sonny even scored a knocked down in the fourth
round with a left hook. Anyway, it's true, Sonny was never involved in a long
battle or in a legendary fight,apart the SHOOK UP THE WORLD FIGHT. That's
why I too doubt about his heart and stamina. We'll never know whether he was a
true warrior or not.|
|1/6/05 10:25:26 AM|charles|ark.||ctjjandfam@aol.com||||10|sonny was more a
warrior than patterson, who i really thought was a blown up light heavyweight at
the best. he gave jerry trouble because of his experience. had jerry fought him
at his peak he would have destoyed floyd.|
|1/6/05 11:07:13 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|One of the
recent posts here put it best---when you depend on intimidation to win half the
battle, you're in trouble when you face off against someone who isn't easily
intimidated. It's why someone like Tyson was dismantled by Douglas and
Holyfield. Also, although Ali didn't rely on intimidation, he certainly did
count on his mystique to baffle, confuse and panic his opponents. As a longtime
fan of Ali, I can tell you that Frazier and to an even greater extent, Norton
(two guys I hated back then because of how much I loved Ali) were able to beat
Ali because he didn't get into their head. In hindsight, I especially admire
Norton, because I really don't think he had the talent or experience to fight
Ali so effectively---but he was able to convince himself that he belonged in the
same ring with Ali and he didn't let Ali's tactics bother him--not even a
little. I think Ali did get inside Fraizer's head, but Joe shook it off and he
was the animal that Norton wasn't---and willed himself to fight Ali well. |
|1/6/05 11:24:41 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|Angelo-Interesting comment ! I
think that the second Ali-Norton fight was really impressive as Ali' was really
in top shape, focused and angryand danced throughout the entire fight; but
still I had Norton ahead by at least 1 point at the end of the fight. The second
half of that fight was really GREAT. |
|1/6/05 11:50:01 AM|Fan|Fandom||Fan@Fandom.com||||10|The second Norton-Ali fight
was the best of the trilogy. It is one of the more entertaining fights of the
whole period and really gets lost in the shuffle. Norton on that night would
have beaten prime Larry Holmes. It was Norton at his best, and Ali at his best
post exile. |
|1/6/05 12:13:27 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Maybe I'm
partial, but I had Norton winning the first fight, Ali winning the second (not
easily, but clearly) and Ali barely winning the third and lucky to survive with
his title. I admit that if I didn't know either fighter, I might give Norton a
slight edge, but that's not how I think the fight should be judged. Put in the
context of a challenger trying to take the title from a long-time champion,
Norton didn't do enough to win. Yes, Ali's history gave him an inherent edge
that Norton had to overcome---and I don't think he did enough to overcome it.
That's how title fights are often judged, and not just Ali's. One exception to
this was Hagler/Leonard, but then again, Leonard was himself a great champion.
I think Ali outboxed Norton in the second fight which was at best for
Norton, a draw, but really, I think Ali outpointed him.|
|1/6/05 12:14:31 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|John Gerald,
it was Cus who wouldn't sign up for a fight against certain fighters. Floyd was