January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

Sure Foster could hit, as all of his wins in his entire career were by
knockout, 30-6, 30 by KO, However, he was slow and ponderous. He had a good
left jab but his feet were like he was stuck in mud. Sure there was a chance
one of his bombs could hurt Frazier, catching him coming in, but I see Frazier
putting so much pressure on Foster that he would have cut him down on the way to
a mid to later round stoppaged win for Joe.Noam, it seems you never saw
Frazier at his best as he was downright scary he was so relentless in pursuit of
his opponents and except for Foreman, one of the best if not the best finisher
once he had someone hurt the game has ever seen, who hurt Frazier badly early in
the fight and Frazier never recovered, Frazier walked through almost everyone he
ever fought. You see a pattern of Frazier avoiding punchers. What about
Quarry, Bonevena, Chuvalo, and yes even Stander? All of these guys could hit
hard and even though they are not the pure punchers that Foreman, Shavers, Lyle,
and M. Foster were, Quarry etc, were dangerous opponents.That the other
Foster, Bob the light heavyweight champion got a title shot, it is custom that
many light heavyweight champions get a chance at the heavyweight title. Dempsey
had Charpentier, Louis had Conn, Marciano had Moore, and Holmes had M. Spinks.
No big deal that Frazier gave B. Foster a shot.Oh by the way M. Foser's
fight with Ali was not that tough of a fight as he even though M. Foster was
durable and game, Ali won virtually every round.|
|3/3/05 11:47:49 AM|Forest Ward|New York City||raymccormack2003@yahoo
.com||||10|Let me make some points clear. As of lately on this board I have seen
the Ali worshippers distort boxing history. They do this primarily by pretending
their opinions are facts. And the end result is they distort boxing history. I
have no problem with them doing whatever they like amongst themselves, but my
fear is that when they do it in public forum like this site they may unduly
influence someone who is not familiar with boxing history. Their attacks
on Frazier are relentless, and confusing. A short time ago I thought I finally
understood the point the worshippers were trying to make. That Ali defended his
championship against better contenders than Frazier did. I went one step
further, and remarked that Ali defended the title against better contenders than
any champion ever, in any division. That did not satisfy the worshippers, they
continued to attack Frazier, and not accept counter views.Why are
the worshippers so rigid in accepting opposing views? Well, I have a few
thoughts about that. One, they do not read the post of others with an open mind,
or completely. Two, because they do not read the opposing posts correctly, they
respond with poision pen attack at Frazier. In all my years on this board, I
have never seen a champion, any champion, attacked the way they attack
Frazier.Finally, the worshippers will deny this but they put forth their
opinion as if they are boxing experts. When confronted with misconceptions on
their part which are documented, they ignore the correction. As if their errors
never happenned. Finally, anyone who is an Ali worshippers, and does not like
the description, WORSHIPPER, then look up the definition. Now let me respond to
the worshippers.We will start with the most recent postings 1st.
Worshipper #1. Mac Foster never beat a ranked contender in his whole career. Ali
is 2 years older than FrazierWorshipper #2. There was no need for me to
give Frazier's management Cloverlay "the heads-up. They managed Frazier into a
fight for 2.5 million dollars, at that time the biggest purse ever. It was not
Cloverlay goal to as you write, "Cloverlay could have squeezed more juice out of
him," (Frazier). When Joe's career was over he was wealthy, and healthy.
Cloverlay did a great job. Frazier defended his title against among others:
Ellis, Quarry, Bonavena. Also, Joe was a champion or a ranked contender for
approximately 9 years that's not a bad run for a "Philadelphi
fighter."On to worshipper #3. I started of by saying to Kent, "I am not
even going into about winning percentages regarding Joe Frazier. All I
said,"Frazier lost 4 fights." Worshipper #3, Frazier had less fights than Louis,
Marciano, Liston. He also made and kept a lot more money than these 3 guys.