January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

defense. I can see him outpointing Rocky but in a very tough fight.But
as I said before on the subject of Ali against Rocky, it also depends on who is
judging the fights and that they would likely go the distance. If the judges
favored quanity of punches, then they would favor Ali or Holmes over Rocky but
if they liked the fact that Rocky was always pressing the action and was landing
a lot of body punches and enough head punches to be effective, then they could
favor Rocky with the harder punches.Another factor is the referees.
Rocky had a tendency to cut and Ali and Holmes may have been able to open up
cuts on him from their long accurate, quick jabs. Later referees would be more
likely to stop a fight sooner than oldtimers. If the fight were held
today, there is no way Rocky beats Ezzard Charles in the fight when Rocky had
his nose sliced in two. The referee would have stopped it before Rocky could
make his comeback, which is what happened in real life. The referees back then
let the fights go longer.|
|7/5/05 04:24:07 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Kent: Make
Joe Louis the referee and the fight would march on, no matter how badly someone
was hurt. Yesterday, I pulled out the Quarry tapes and watched some of Frazier-
Quarry II. When that horrendous cut opened, Frazier stood back and looked over
at Joe Louis as if to say, "Jerry likes a fight as much as anyone I know, and he
isn't gonna quit. For Christ sakes, stop the damn fight." and still, Louis let
the two of them battle on. It was ridiculous. |
|7/5/05 04:26:52 PM|Fan|Fandom||Fan@Fandom.com||||10|Max, Any recollections of
the Tony Danza fight? Also was Sugar Ray Seales the best fighter you fought? I
always thought he was very talented, although unlucky.|
|7/5/05 05:11:16 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Was Seales
the '72 Olympic Middleweight? Very good indeed. I thought that on the '76
team, Howard Davis was the most talented, or maybe second to Ray Leonard. Well,
Leonard, both Spinks, Leo...forgot his name---these guys all won world titles,
but I don't think Howard Davis ever did, which is weird to me, since I thought
he was the most polished boxer on the team. Also, there was a silver medalist
(Mooney?) who was very good. I think our '76 team would perform very well
against some of the Cuban's best teams. I also think Teo Stephenson was the
most overrated Olympic boxer. Sure, he won three golds, but he essentially was
a paid professional taking on kids. Put him in with a good pro heavy of any
year that he won a gold and he would have been crushed. Put Mike Tyson in a
three round fight, with headgear, against Teo, and Tyson would need about 25
seconds to make the headgear part of Teo's skull. I look at that slow, careful
upright style, with the long reach that could keep guys like Tate and Bobick
away, but someone like Foreman would chop him up. Pick any contender we've
talked about---Shavers, Lyle, Young, Snipes, Ruddock, Cooney---these guys would
walk over him. Take Bobick or Tate with a couple years of pro experience, and
they would have their way with him. Berbick---somebody mentioned Frank Bruno---
just start listing professional heavyweight contenders of the last 30 years and
my belief is that most of them would take Teo without a lot of trouble. Hell,
if Puerto Rico wanted a gold medal, they could have sent Ossie Ocasio as a pro!
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|7/5/05 05:37:53 PM|Forest Ward|NYC||NYC||||10|Well, Noam, you finally answered
my question. Normally, you are as bad with answering questions, as you are with
fight data, such as records, dates, opponents, and your all time favorite
distorting what people write. You old boy, claim what people write and what they
are thinking are not one in the same. Interesting.Now getting back to my
question. I asked you, if given a magic wand you could remove from Ali's career
some of the unnecessary fights he had. Namely, Bonevena, Norton 1,2,3, Lyle,
Shavers, Foreman, Holmes, Berbic. These fights were not necessary yet he had
them.I think few people would doubt the idea, that these fights
contributed greatly to the brain damage he has today. You said you would wave
the magic wand and remove these unnecessary fights from Ali's career. I asked