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counted, and he was bobbing as many as 20 times a minute at times!Ali<br />

was lucky to have lasted with Smokin' Joe. Holmes would've gone down. Larry was<br />

a superb boxer, clever, fast, had a decent enough chin, but couldn't have kept<br />

Frazier off. No one could, save Foreman.|<br />

|8/28/03 02:04:31 PM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|I agree that<br />

Frazier would have beaten Holmes. I think Frazier peaked the night he knocked<br />

out Bob Foster and the first Ali fight. Frazier was already going downhill when<br />

he fought Ron Stander. |<br />

|8/28/03 03:19:10<br />

PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Some good wannabe<br />

stories:Lotsa people who aren't fighters like to think they are, or<br />

would have been if things had been different. Some stories that show it aint<br />

neccessarily so!Writer, Ernest Hemmingway used to spar, and thought he<br />

was a tough guy. Good Lord, ~I~ would have sparred with him as slow as he was,<br />

but anyway, he used to browbeat poor, skinny, know nothing Cubans into getting<br />

in with him, and then knocked them all over the place. Once, he convinced (by<br />

then X) heavyweight champion Gene Tunney to don the gloves for a little workout.<br />

Tunney knew Hemmingway's reputation, and didn't like it, so he let Papa huff and<br />

puff and roundhouse away for a while. Finally, after Ernie got a little frisky,<br />

perhaps mistaking Tunney's compassion for his (Hemmingway's) own talent, Tunney<br />

capitalized on one of EH's many mistakes, and in the razor sharp twinkling of an<br />

eye, threw a jab and a right cross, each stopping inches from Hemmingway's head,<br />

regarded the fat sloppy author with disdain, and climbed down out of the ring,<br />

saying not a word.Sylvester Stallone, star of five Rocky fantasies, also<br />

came to think of himself as a legitimate pugilist. Earnie Shavers was being<br />

seriously considered for the role of Clubber Lang in Rocky 3, a part that<br />

eventually went to Mr. T (who ~looks tougher than Shavers,even though ES could<br />

clean the Mohawked one's clock as if he were a Girl Scout). As they just messed<br />

around in the ring, Stallone suddenly whispered, "Hit me, Earnie, don't hold<br />

back!" Shavers remembers thinking, "Is this guy nuts!?" <strong>The</strong> coaxing continued,<br />

so Shavers pulled his punch, but still threw one considerably harder than he'd<br />

been, and Stallone threw up, Xing Earnie Shavers from the movie. In<br />

Rocky 2, there's a brief sparring scene in the gym, in which "Rocky's" sparring<br />

partner is none other than the great Roberto Duran. For the less than 30 seconds<br />

that it's on, Duran makes an absolute monkey out of SS, at the end, even tapping<br />

him on the back of the head. Stallone couldn't have hit Duran if he'd thrown a<br />

bucket of water at him.:-)|<br />

|8/28/03 03:24:07 PM|Jonny Q|New York||JohnQW@yahoo.com||||9|I always rooted for<br />

<strong>Jerry</strong>, but Frazier was also my hero in the early 70s. People who diss Joe<br />

always refer to his fights with Foreman as a measure of the man. <strong>The</strong>y forget<br />

that by the time Joe met Ali in ’71, Frazier had swept through the division. A<br />

division of great fighters. When Joe fought Foreman it was at the two weakest<br />

points of Frazier’s career. In <strong>January</strong> ’73 Joe was overweight and in poor<br />

health, and Joe was clearly finished in ’76 for his post-Manilla fight with<br />

George. Anyone but me notice that Joe still went five competive round with<br />

George? It was no rerun of the first fight. Despite all, Joe fought a smart<br />

defensive fight in the rematch, suckering George into quick counterpunches, and<br />

by the 4th round Joe was clubbing George with hooks. <strong>The</strong>n George turned up the<br />

heat and trapped Joe in the 5th. I wish they'd met instead in 74-75, when Joe<br />

was back in form.|<br />

|8/28/03 03:47:52 PM|Massimo|Rome||Wilt.com||||10|Joe Frazier was fantastic even<br />

in the second Ali' fight and probably he deserved a draw; butJonny, I have<br />

to disagree with you about Foreman-Frazier 2. I have that tape and, in my<br />

opinion, George won easily ! He won surely the first and the third round ! I can<br />

maybe give to Frazier a draw in the second and fourth round...Just my opinion !<br />

Joe Frazier, what a champion !|<br />

|8/28/03 03:56:45 PM|Gerry Schultz|Ohio||jgschultz11@msn.com||||9|A lot again on

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