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January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

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|1/21/05 04:55:25 PM|Larry King|Roma||CNN.com||||10|Hard times for the<br />

challengers ! If a challenger loses the fight for the championship he might (or<br />

may) not have another chance ! Never again ! This isn't the case for the<br />

champion. <strong>The</strong> champion is already famous and has already a place in history,<br />

he'll have another chance to the title someday. Immagine a guy who begins his<br />

professional career, beats all the best contenders in the wordl, gains a N.1<br />

CONTENDER position, fights against the champion, beats him by a very small<br />

margin [ not enough to overcome (or overtake, or exceed) the 2 points deficit],<br />

doesn't win the title and is probably not going to have another chance to the<br />

title in his lifetime... What is he gonna do ? Rocky 6 with Stallone ? Again,<br />

hard times for the challengers !|<br />

|1/22/05 02:46:34 AM|Kent |La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|It is true,<br />

a number one contender often doesn't get more than one or two title shots.<br />

<strong>Jerry</strong> <strong>Quarry</strong> became the number one contender three times but he only got two<br />

title shots. One against Jimmy Ellis in 1968 which he lost by split decision<br />

and once against Joe Frazier in 1969 in which he lost by TKO after seven rounds.<br />

<strong>Jerry</strong> fought well in this one, especially the first three rounds, but Frazier<br />

wore him down with his relentless style. He of course deserved a third<br />

shot in 1973 which he didn't get even though he defeated Ron Lyle, who had won<br />

19 in a row and Earnie Shavers, who had won 32 out of his last 33, 32 by<br />

knockout going into the <strong>Quarry</strong> fight. George Foreman, champion at the time,<br />

was quoted as saying after <strong>Jerry</strong>'s one round demolition of Shavers, that <strong>Jerry</strong><br />

had just blown his title shot. <strong>Jerry</strong> took his ill fated second bout with<br />

Frazier instead and he showed little in being stopped this time in five<br />

rounds.If all of a sudden <strong>Jerry</strong> had started to fade after his good year<br />

in 1973 at least if he had been handily defeated by Foreman in 1974 instead of<br />

Frazier, he would have deserved to get the chance at the title regardless. |<br />

|1/22/05 03:03:08 AM|Noam|same||same||||10|MassimoIn the modern era,<br />

contenders get plenty of chances, whether they were unlucky or not. I can't<br />

think of a single contender who never got a second chance after a controversial<br />

loss. Heck, some guys make a living out of being a contender, given the number<br />

of titles on offer.AngeloRather than have an unofficial system,<br />

make it official. Recognize that the champion earned the title and doesn't<br />

deserve to lose it on a doubt. To win the title you must do it convincingly and<br />

giving the champion a two point head start ensures this situation.Also,<br />

I'd change the procedure with the score cards of judges. Many say that the<br />

scores should be shown to everyone at the end of each round so that the fighters<br />

know where they stand. Have a score board. Fighters would see they can't win on<br />

points and would go all out for a ko making the fight exciting to the<br />

end.However, I wouldn't do this. I would instead collect the cards from<br />

the judges at the end of each round. Don't let the judges go back and tally who<br />

is leading. Some judges tally the scores and say, "Gee, Iron Mike is<br />

behind two points with three rounds to go. I'd better give him the benefit of<br />

the doubt in this round so he's still in the fight. I gotta make Don happy."<br />

It would be better if the judges weren't in this situation. <strong>The</strong>y should<br />

score each round on its merits and not be influenced by the rest of the fight<br />

and other rounds. Each round is an individual battle.|<br />

|1/22/05 10:49:18 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|Noam-This time you're right !<br />

My boxing soul lives back in the 60s in California, even if I'm actually from<br />

Pisa and I started breathing in the 70s. Now, with all the belts availaible,<br />

being a title contender is almost inevitable. Yesterday I read Butterbean's<br />

record and I noticed that he is 1.82 (about 5'11" 1/2 wilt) and weighted 391 lbs<br />

for one of his last fights !!!!!!! Oh my God, who is this guy ? Andre' the<br />

Midget's reincarnation ?|<br />

|1/22/05 01:06:21 PM|Kent|La Haba, Ca||kentallent@aol.com||||10|Massimo,<br />

Butterbean, AKA (also known as) Eric Esch, calls himself the king of the four<br />

rounders. He normally only takes fights that long and he has a good record in

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