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clearly winning---then got cocked with thunder bombs, only to recover and win.
Douglas had the slip up but came back to win. I think in a rematch, Tyson would
come into the fight in about the same basic condition. Meanwhile, I think
Douglas fought his heart out for that one night, but even though he had the
physical tools and boxing ability, I think he showed before and after winning
the title that he didn't have the mental focus to stay in shape and come into
fights sharp. Tyson would have knocked him out as Holyfield did. But the one
thing Buster did was out Tyson as a guy who wasn't Superman after all. I think
I've heard Bert Sugar talk about this before---how when a Champion is going
down, he suddenly looks smaller. Liston looked short and stocky, old and slow
against Clay/Ali. Frazier looked like a midget against Foreman. And that
night, against Douglas, Tyson suddenly started to look smaller and not so
imposing after all. |
|9/22/03 06:56:55 PM|kookoo|ny||kookooclock000@yahoo.com||||8|you guys are
mostly the same bunch of hardheaded jerks that was on here 5 yrs ago. tyson at
his best would have the great ali, why? because ali could not afford to lay on
the ropes. unlike foreman tyson would not get tired. 1 tyson shot in his prime
could have ended it. what you guys don't realize is that these guys now would
beat the old guys just on shear size. angelo who cares about italian, if your
going to learn a language, learn spanish, somthing we'll all need to use. we all
want to relive the past , it can't be done. hey massimo john gotti was a friend
of mine. thanks to you folks, you really did a lot for the U.S.A. pizza,
gambling , murder, forget about it.coo coo |
|9/23/03 02:19:34 AM|Massimo|Rome||e||||10|KooKoo-Anyway, the problem is
that Tyson's prime lasted about two days !|
|9/23/03 02:41:55 AM|Evren|London||@||||10|Ali at his best never layed on the
ropes - incorrect comment!|
|9/23/03 06:51:10 AM|kookoo|ny||kookooclock000@yahoo.com||||8|you are right, ali
would hit and then be laying on the ropes covering up. he'd do ok till tyson got
in a good shot. much faster and harder than fraziers'. no punch frazier ever
threw was remembered except that lucky knockdown in the 15th rd. when ali was
tired and he still was up at the count of 3! tyson still was the greatest, look
at the video. yea , he fought bums , but he destroyed them like nobody before or
since. he'll end up dead though, too angry, too stupid. coo coo|
|9/23/03 06:56:36 AM|Massimo|Rome||e||||10|Is it true Ali' thumbed purposelly
Terrell in the third round of their fight ?|
|9/23/03 09:32:38
AM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Yes, he did,
though this wasn't unique with the Terrell fight. Ali was known as a thumber,
and might have had as good a head (butting) as Frazier. All the top guys are
pretty good with less than clean tactics, without being readily observable.
Watch too for "missed" hooks (elbow).|
|9/23/03 11:31:48 AM|Massimo|Rome||e||||10|Thanks RS !Tyson is a great
master of "elbow hooks". RS,I need an advice: i have decided to buy Ali'-
Terrell from Tunaman... Is it a good idea ?Was that a good fight ? Thanks
again.I'm surprised that a fighter thumble another fighter using gloves and
not bare fists !|
|9/23/03 11:49:23
AM|Roadscholarettte|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|If the price is
good, and you like Terrell, I'd go with it. Ali dominates the fight, but Terrell
does fight too. Ali is incredibly fast. The blindingly fast Clay/Ali is to be
seen consistently only pre-exile. He had moments in his second career, but not
consistently. His hands stayed fast for a long time, but his foot speed
deteriorated rather quickly, particularly against good opponents. I'd have loved
to have seen Frazier against him in career one. As odd as it might sound, I
think Ali handled himself better in the Frazier fights than Clay would
have.Ali looked lousy in training, laying on the ropes and letting guys