January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

ocassion. Don't embrass me now. Being that you raised the point on more than one
ocassion about the inferior opponents Frazier's faced leading up to the Mathis
fight. I think it is only right you name the opponents that the entrants into
the WBA Tournament fought in their 7 fight prior to the Tournament. Besides I
don't want to be accused of putting words in your mouth, or misquoating
youCome on Norm name the 7 opponents that qualified: Patterson, Martin,
Terrell, Spencer, Bonevana, Quarry, Ellis, Mildenberger before they entered the
Tournament. I will make it easier for you. Just name their opponents leading up
to 1 year before the Tournament began. Really, this one of the main stays of
your argument. Let's see if it holds up? I don't think it will. But, maybe I am
wrong.Regarding the opponents you mentioned capable of giving Frazier a
tough time in the Tournament:Bonevana, Quarry, Ellis. The record shows only
Bonevena gave Frazier any difficulty. Just because Quarry won the 1st round in
the Frazier fight, I don't think on that basis one can say that Quarry gave
Frazier a tough time.|
|9/19/05 05:48:55 PM|Pete|Cleveland||N/A||||10|Gerry, what I said regarding
Quarry is being misconstrued. I never doubted Quarry's talent or gameness. All I
am saying about Quarry is that Frazier walked right through Jerry, and it was
not one of Frazier's toughest fights as far as punishment or damage that was
layed on Frazier.Gerry, it was a great fight the (the 1st one anyway.)
But Frazier was not staggered, cut up, or tired. I mean compared to the Ali,
Bonevena, Foreman fights it does not rank as hard. Forgive me for saying this,
but Manuel Ramos, Ron Stander, Joe Bugner, Eddie Machen all staggered Joe. And
while I don't consider these tough fights for Frazier, Quarry could not do that.
On paper Quarry was a great opponent, but in the ring Joe had Jerry's number,
bigtime.The point I am trying to make someone suggested that maybe Joe
did not go into the Tournament because he was trying to avoid 3 tough fights,
Bonevana, Quarry , Ellis. Frazier beat Quarry and Ellis easily. And besides if
he was trying to avoid Bonavena why did he give Oscar a rematch?|
|9/19/05 06:57:45 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|Okay Pete. I'll have a look at your
question and provide an answer.But remember something. It was Frazier
who claimed to be the best heavyweight in the world. That was the reason he used
when refusing to enter the WBA tournament. The guys who entered it weren't
making that claim. Thanks.|
|9/19/05 10:19:58 PM|Fan|Fandom||Fan@Fandom.com||||10|There will be many
interesting answers now that I'm researching recent claims.|
|9/20/05 12:57:39 AM|Noam|same||same||||10|Pete - During the year before Frazier
fought Mathis, Joe had six fights ...... Jones, Davis, Johnson, Chuvalo, Doyle,
Connors. None of these guys were rated in the Top 10 by the Ring Magazine. It
was on these fights that Frazier based his claim that he was the best
heavyweight in the world, too good to have to be in the elimination tournament.
So now for the others.Patterson - his last six fights ....Ali (for
heavyweight title), Cooper, Willie Johnson, Bill McMurray, and Jerry Quarry.
(Better quality than Joe's by far.) Jimmy Ellis ...... Hilton, Waqua,
Daniels, Embry, Sims, Persol (not much quality there).Thad Spencer .....
Bodell, London, McMurray, Jones, Lincoln, Terrell. (Better quality than
Joe's.)Oscar Bonavena ..... Amos Johnson, Benassi, Veliz, Hilton,
Sagrispanti, Pires (looks like Oscar had a rest after knocking Frazier down
twice in the first round of their fight).Ernie Terrell.....Machen,
Chuvalo, Jones, Ali, Spencer, Ramos. (Better quality than Joe's.)Karl
Mildenberger.....Machen, Prebeg, Ali, Tomasoni, Walker, Lincoln. (Better than
Joe's.)Jerry Quarry.....Orbillo, Al Jones, London, Miteff, Patterson,
Daniels. (Better than Joe's.)Pete - I still say that there was nothing
in Joe's resume prior to the WBA tournament entitling him to the claim that he
was the best heavyweight in the world, too good to enter the WBA tournament.
Most of the other guys had fought better opposition and they deserved a shot at
the title. All these guys were rated Top 10 by the Ring Magazine. Yet