January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

their era and in some cases of any era. Young was within a couple whiskers of
being undefeated against these guys and being a Champion. Many people feel he
was cheated. |
|3/2/06 09:28:24 PM|Kent|Murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Ron Lyle
thought he won both fights with Young but the judges saw differently.In
one of those fights Young had welts on his sides from Lyle's body attack and
Lyle landed the harder punches but Young more of them so he got two decisions|
|3/4/06 10:44:55 AM|Bob Bumbera|NC||renfbera@aol.com||||10|Noam, Holyfield has
had a speach impediment all of his life. In fact when he was a child they
thought he was retarted because of it. He worked with speach therapists to
overcome the problem. Now I am not saying he hasn't suffered any damage, he
probably has and I think he should stay home. But he won't. The other thing
that boxing commisions should do is have the weigh in the day of the fight not a
day or two before. In some of the lower weight classes these guys are coming in
10 to 15 pounds over the class limit. Most of the elite super middleweights and
lightheavies are 180 to 190 by fight time. If you are a natural 165 to 175
pounder you won't stand a chance against these guys.|
|3/4/06 11:52:30 PM|Kent|Murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Bob B, I agree
that fighters losing an abnormal amount of weight in one day is number one,
unhealthy for them, and number two, not fair for fighters that are naturally the
weight the divisions calls for.Weighing in the same day is a good rule
change then we will see more true lightweights, middleweights, etc.I was
shocked to see Joe Calzaghge totally dominant Jeff Lacy in a super middleweight
title fight tonight.I thought Lacy would catch up to him and hurt him
with his power but he pretty much never did and the British fighter won just
about every round. Another American fighter loses a belt, oh well, better luck
next time.|
|3/5/06 05:38:11 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|Bob, thanks, I didn't know that about
Holyfield's childhood. I do know that Holyfield is a very decent man. A friend
of mine happened to walk past Holyfield in the street a few years ago. Holyfield
took the time to talk to him for about 30 minutes or so. There was nothing in it
for Evander except human kindness. A lot of other sportsmen could learn from
him. I hope he doesn't have any damage.|
|3/6/06 03:27:08 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron||||10|Kent: I think it's an
economic reason why fighters don't weigh in the day of the fight. What would
happen if the fighter didn't make weight? Cancel the fight? Return the ticket
money and closed circuit fees? Weighing in a couple days before gives the
fighter who comes in over the limit the probability of shedding the weight. I
agree with you that it's accomplished by dehydration and isn't good going into
the fight. But I think Bob's point might have been just the opposite???? Guys
make weight and then use the last two days before the fight to get back to their
"normal" weight, which is much higher than the limit. |
|3/6/06 10:10:48 PM|Steve|NJ||dmmsrm@ comcast.net.||||10|I still have enough
faith in the regulars on this site to give out my E-mail address.Thank you Noam
,for warning me of the dangers of this,I never forgot that.Angello,sorry ,but as
a long time fan of boxing,I don't think Jimmy Young was a great fighter.He was
an aberation,much like John Ruiz.They where guys strong enough and with good
enough reflexes to avoid being hit,while clutching and holding,with the
ocasional foul,you know,headlocks,holding,falling down and faking low blow
damage.They didn't come to win against Lyle,or Foreman.Ruiz against anyone.They
came for a huge payday,and to survive the fight.|
|3/6/06 10:33:12 PM|Steve|nj||na||||10|I'm not in full agreement with anyone who
thinks Young or Ruiz belong in any study that develops into a list of even top
twenty heavyweights .|
|3/6/06 10:48:13 PM|steve |NJ||na||||10|Angello,I disagree with the idea of a
fighter not having to make the weight limit for his class on fight day.If you
have to starve yourself and become dehyderated in order to make weight,then you