January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

and he is familar with Joe Frazier as well being a former professional fighter
himself, I wonder what he would have to say about this debate. He is not online
but I have a way to contact him and I will do so when possible to ask what he
thinks about this.Hey Bob, if you do happen to check in here, please let
us know what you think about Joe Frazier supposedly ducking fighters like Ron
Lyle, Earnie Shavers, and Mac Foster.|
|3/4/05 05:55:28 AM|Noam|same||same||||10|KentFrazier doesn't say it was
an eliminator in his book and I've looked up fight records and it isn't
catalogued there either. It might not have been an eliminator.You say
Joe didn't duck those guys; I believe he did. He didn't fight them and they were
available. They were all viable opponents. They were all better fighters than
Stander and Daniels and Ellis (at that stage of his career). And they
were all damaging punchers, which is the very species that presented the most
danger to Joe at that stage of hia career. Like they say, if it walks like a
duck and quacks like a duck then more likely than not it is a duck. I still say
Joe ducked all of them (sorry for the pun).Regards the 'balls' comment.
Forest barked and you yelped. As soon as Forest said you should be impatient
with us "Ali worshippers", you became spontaneously impatient with us "Ali
worshippers." The perogative to do so is all yours, of course. Thanks.|
|3/4/05 08:38:18 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Speaking of
balls, how would Frazier do against Lynn Ball? Do you guys remember him?
Wasn't he fighting around the same time as Jumbo Cummings?|
|3/4/05 10:15:33 AM|Massimo |Roma ||4||||10|You're right Angelo, Lynn Ball
kicked Ron Lyle's ass in 1979 ! |
|3/4/05 11:42:51 AM|Fran|Philly||plc7755@aol.com||||10|Frazier fought Daniels
and then Stander the year after he fought Ali the first time, and was workin his
way back in to fighting shape. They wanted to set him up with a few tune-ups.
Thats boxing. At that time Shavers and Lyle weren't ready for a title fight.
They were still being groomed, learning the trade. When they made their move
they made the same mistake a lot of others did when they fought Jerry Quarry.
Back then Lyle and Shavers were never mentioned in the same sentence as Frazier.
Not that they werent good fighters but, no one wanted to see Frazier fight those
guys. Frazier was working towards Ali because thats where the money was at and
thats what boxing is all about. If Frazier fought Foreman when he did you
could never say he ducked anyone. He was handled the right way and every fight
he fought was a non stop war. Ali could hold n clinch and clown because of his
style and size. Frazier had 2 careers Before Ali 1 and after Ali 1. The
first career he was unbeatable. Forget the second career he had already proven
himself by then. |
|3/4/05 01:19:09 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Noam, you are
FULL OF CRAP!! I HAVE TRIED NOT TO BE IMPATIENT WITH YOU UNTIL THAT CRACK ABOUT
YELPING CAUSE FOREST SAID BE IMPATIENT, NOW I AM IMPATIENT!! I have tried to
answer your questions the best I can and if I missed one, then it has nothing to
do with Forest and I have stayed out of that, one way or the other.You
must like to argue just to argue as now you are starting in on me.So
what are you going to do now? Start an argument with Steve cause he often
agrees with me and say he has no balls cause he didn't jump to your defense
against me? Also, there are plenty more people you can argue with if it isn't
Steve next.|
|3/4/05 02:01:56 PM|Forest Ward|New York
City||raymccormack2003@yahoo.com||||10|Kent, you are right about the Frazier-
Quarry II being an elimination fight. Here is the background regarding the
elimination designation. Foreman won the championship in Jan 73. In that
same year Quarry made a comeback and beat both Shavers and Lyle. Quarry was
matched to fight Foreman for the title, to this day Gil Clancy swears he has the
contract to that fight (Jerry's half of the contract). Foreman backed out of the
match and did not fight Quarry, he fought Joe Roman. This brings up to