January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

Shavers was ready to go and instead, he looked for an opening and delivered a
short little uppercut that put Ellis down. Watching Ellis try to stand up but
unable to because he was so dizzy---maybe this sent the message to Yank that
Frazier should fight the loser instead of the winner. Seems to me Frazier was
more than willing to take on some not so worthy opponents, except these
opponents couldn't deliver the "ONE PUNCH WONDER" threat that "rough around the
edges" Shavers could. And yes, if we rule out Shavers because he wasn't worthy
(That's questionable because he was in the Top Ten), then you're right about Ron
Lyle being more polished and ready. Kent has pointed out that Quarry beat Lyle
and Shavers, and Joe beat Quarry, so that excused Frazier from having to meet
these guys. By that logic, a whole bunch of historic fights would have never
been made. If fighter A beats fighter B, and fighter C beats fighter A, then C
and B never have to fight eachother. Forrest would call this the "Smart
Management Clause" in handling a fighter. I call it quack-quack. |
|7/11/05 04:39:10 PM|Fan|Fandom||Fan@Fandom.com||||10|Lyle was always viewed as
more legitimite than Shavers. Shavers was a better puncher, but less skilled.
Shavers could have knocked out anyone in history in one round. He also could
have been knocked out by a ton of guys in one round. That is why he has aged
well, his fights were incredible. How about Roy "Tiger" Williams? That 10th
round makes Rocky look like a John Ruiz fight!!|
|7/11/05 04:54:45 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|Hi Forest - you are deluded again.
Not only am I not Howard C. (like you and Fandom are one), but I never called
you a pedophile. I can't recall calling you a homosexual, however if I did maybe
I was just counter punching you calling me "a joke", "a blowhard", "a jerk" and
"boring and rude". And that was just on 7 January 2005.Anyway, you are
Fandom's "number 1 fan" (3/33/05) and on 4/12/05 you told Fandom that "Fan, you
are my man, I think you know that by now." How sweet. In light of your unusual
devotion to Fandom, I'm not prepared to rule anything out. Not that there's
anything wrong with that, mind you.Kent - just because Shavers lost his
last fight, doesn't mean that Frazier would have necessarily ruled him out.
Remember Ellis 2 ? This is Ellis's record before Joe fought him a second
time:loss to Bugnerlost to Lyledrew with Middletonlost to
Kirkmanbeat Memphis Jonesknocked out by ShaversI'd say the fact
that Shavers lost his last fight should have made it more likely that Frazier
would fight him.Angelo - what is "vegamite" ? You speak of someone named
"Dundee" in the Battle of the Undead (Frazier v Ellis) in Australia. Is that
Crocodile Dundee ? You are right about Spok and Kirk.Back to Forest. I
think you are a very nasty, spiteful, bitter person. Your hatred of Ali is
obvious given you gloating about his injuries. I remind everyone what you wrote
on 6/23/05:"God Bless Frazier's managers. Frazier takes great pleasure
in seeing Ali stagger around with his hands shaking and not being able to talk.
Joe gladly takes the responsibility for a lot of Ali's bodily
damage."You proudly wrote that of Frazier like Ali's injuries were some
grotesque symbol of triumph. You are a nasty man. Apart from the abuse and name
calling you directed at me and Angelo because we disagree with you, you also
called Patterson the "biggest cheese champion of all time" who "fought "bums and
amateurs (6/24/05)". You also accused "Cooney of running a hustle
(4/12/05)."Your posts reveal someone with little useful knowledge of
boxing. Forest, if you think Frazier had smart management, then you are ducking
truth and logic. You are just plain dumb. |
|7/11/05 05:05:20 PM|Angelo|DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Tiger Williams vs.
Shavers was simply ridiculous. How could those guys stand and deliver that type
of punishment? Williams just collapesed from exhaustion at the end. The
Shavers vs. Henry Clark fights were good as well. Didn't Jerry Q. do the
commentary for the old CBS Sports Spectacular boxing and Shavers fights? |
|7/11/05 05:06:34 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|Angelo, you are right about the
"Frazier quacks like a duck debate". It's fun looking at all the different