January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

|6/17/05 01:42:56 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Steve: I
agree. Ali's #1 status is by a whisker, not even by a nose. He lacked one-
punch KO power---and hung around too long (later in his career---1976 and
beyond, too many of his defenses against guys like Young, Shavers, Norton, etc.
exposed how badly his skills had deteriorated). Still, he made up for the lack
of true power by razor sharp, speed punching that took its toll on his
opponents, getting him the knockout wins. His hand and foot speed and
coordination, head movement, rock solid chin, strategic ability, heart---these
all added up to an almost unbeatable and nearly complete package. He had nice
size and weight---and most importantly, took all comers. He fought often and
didn't duck the best---took on clever boxers like Jimmy Young and Jimmy Ellis,
all-time KO artists like Shavers and Foreman and the guys in between like
Quarry, Frazier and Norton. He had an amazingly long career (again, too long).
With all this said, I still think someone like Larry Holmes is mighty close to
being even with Ali. Joe Louis? Right there. Marciano? Undefeated record, a
buzzsaw with a tough chin, like Frazier, who would charge Ali and pressure him
relentlessly, like Frazier did. Still, for shear entertainment value, I'd take
Ali over anybody else. |
|6/17/05 04:31:43 PM|Massimo the Giant|Roma||4||||10|I also rate Ali'(or Cassius
Marcellus Clay) as the n.1 (whatever that means exactly) essentially because he
beat Foreman. If Ali' and Foreman had never fought each other or if George had
beaten him, I would still rate The Liousville Lip as a great champion, but not
the greatest. He couldn't manage to dominate Frazier, Norton, Cooper, Chuvalo,
Mac Foster, Shavers, the strong but clumsy Bonavena, Doug Jones, Billy Daniels
and many others. |
|6/17/05 05:17:04 PM|steve |na||na||||10|Angelo and Massimo the shamless wife
stealing I talian womenizer.First,I find myself in the weird position of
defending Ali.Massimo,he did defeat all the names you put out there.Sometimes
very close wins,but eventualy he defeated every top fighter put in front of him
in his prime years.Angelo,your correct,he hurt his own legacy of greatness by
staying around way,way too long.Angelo,Just so you and I understand each other,I
would have loved to have seen Jerry Quarry tear both Ali and Frazier's head's
off!|
|6/17/05 05:43:48 PM|Joey|Canada||aol||||10|"I would still rate The Liousville
Lip as a great champion, but not the greatest. He couldn't manage to dominate
Frazier, Norton, Cooper, Chuvalo, Mac Foster, Shavers, the strong but clumsy
Bonavena, Doug Jones, Billy Daniels and many others. "Massimo, ALI beat
LISTON twice, FRAZIER twice and FOREMAN to regain the heavyweight
championship.The other fighters you mentioned were all pretty much top
ranked fighters...he beat them all, some more than once.Personally I would
rate ALI as the "GREATEST HEAVYWEIGHT OF ALL TIME". His speed, heart, mental
toughness, ring presence and personality all contributed to his very unique
place in boxing history. I agree with the others that he stayed on way to long
and should have pulled the plug after the FOREMAN fight. Later in his career he
became less credible fighting guys like WEPNER, DUNN etc. Losing the title to
LEON SPINKS was a clear sign that this guy was well beyond his prime. For all
the good he did in the world of heavyweight boxing, he also damaged it somewhat
by hanging around and clowning around. But he was, in my opinion, the greatest
heavyweight champion the world has seen to date.|
|6/17/05 06:29:57 PM|Massimo |Roma||4||||10|Joey, Steve-Maybe I can't
explain myself clearly enough in English, but I said (or, at least, I meant to
say) that I rate Ali' as the N.1, the greatest of all times. I was trying to say
that to (or for) me the Foreman-Ali' fight was a turning point, probably the
most important fight of all times. Ali' won it and so I rank him as the n.1.
After all Foreman had trashed people like Frazier, Chuvalo and Norton. But
without that huge win in his resume (or record), I'm not sure Ali' would be
worth of the n.1 ranking. Foreman beat Frazier, Chuvalo and Norton much more