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likely at all that Ali really had a "head of concrete" -- he just went farther<br />

in his commitment and training than most. |<br />

|12/4/03 10:11:41 PM|Pete|Cleveland||pco@hotmail.com||||10|"How could Ali who<br />

was a light puncher knock out George? He couldn't George had something in him<br />

that night."(QUOTE)George had nothing in him but air, which ran out<br />

quickly that night. Foreman was not a smart fighter, he did not take<br />

instructions from his corner and he saw himself as being invincable. Ali beat<br />

him nicely for the title and the KO was really a culmination of George over<br />

exerting himself to the point of exhaustion. Lyle put him on his ass, as did<br />

Jimmy Young. George was a powerhouse but he peaked quickly and died out the same<br />

way. Ali was the greatest heavyweight in his prime(64-67). He stayed on too<br />

long, as most fighters do, and made a fool of himself in the end. He's not the<br />

only one. Larry Holmes wants to fight George Foreman. <strong>Jerry</strong> stayed on too long<br />

as well. So did Frazier, Holmes, Patterson, Liston, Tyson, Lewis...|<br />

|12/5/03 12:17:38<br />

AM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|entirely a<br />

physical or physiological attribute.><strong>The</strong>re's some psychology involved,<br />

but the prime attribute is certainly physiological, unless we're also willing to<br />

say that Frazier was a sissy with Foreman, or that other tough guys were too who<br />

were KOd or TKOd. :-) More likely, it's part of attitude, >And<br />

he said ~Frazier~ was ignorant!? Honestly, this tactic has to be one of the most<br />

ignorant things I've ever heard in or out of sports. John Tate copied this<br />

technique too.This approach is like a lot of others in sports, like a<br />

football team practicing in rain or extreme heat.>Some moronic football<br />

coaches used to deny their players water too, in the erroneous belief that this<br />

made them "tougher." Till kids started dying from dehydration/heat<br />

stroke.It's not likely at all that Ali really had a "head of<br />

concrete">If medicine had the wherewithal to measure such things, I'm<br />

certain Ali would show himself to be different neurologically in a way that made<br />

him more resistant to head trauma. It's interesting that no other champion I<br />

know of has wanted to quit as many times as Ali (even though he never did), so<br />

it's sort of good news/bad news he could take a punch. If he were more of a<br />

mortal, and been knocked out a few times, it might have spared him a lot of<br />

grief today. Fans need to believe that Ali was durable solely because of<br />

character though. -- he just went farther in his commitment and<br />

training than most.>That's one thing I really resented about Ali -<br />

showing up in the ring in less than peak condition, blowing off about how great<br />

he was, then lumbering and loafing around the ring, grabbing opponents, and<br />

passing this off as "strategy." Also one of the best eye thumbers and head<br />

butters too, though this was always "accidental" contact. |<br />

|12/5/03 12:43:39 AM|Evan B|Belfast||evanb46@juno.com||||10|Roadscholarette, you<br />

are a Roberto Duran at begging the question and a Tex Cobb at debate. It's<br />

pointless to correct you because you slither on to your next outrageous claim.<br />

What will it be? That Foreman was actually a big Lesbian, or that Frazier is the<br />

Risen Christ? That only by using Flubber in his shoes was Ali able to dance?<br />

Where do you get these ideas, ma'am? OK, OK, OK, OK, Ali was a hopeless bum who<br />

won his fights by fighting dirty, we should have him because sometimes he didn't<br />

train enough, and his skull was made of Titanium. Now we're getting somewhere!<br />

You are so wise. |<br />

|12/5/03 04:05:05 AM|Massimo|Rome||4||||10|Judging a fighter for his best night,<br />

I think that the Ali' that fought Cl. Williams was the greatest heavyweight (<br />

and maybe the greatest fighter) of all time ! I know that Williams was over the<br />

hill at the time, but was still a dangerous opponent. Nobody ever showed the<br />

class that Ali' showed that night !|<br />

|12/5/03 05:55:33 AM|Fran|PA||plc7755@aol.com||||10|Ali was the guy they wanted<br />

to win. <strong>The</strong>y being promoters sports writers and all others who profitted from<br />

Ali's ability to attract the non boxing fan. So one fight maybe is a stretch but

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