January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

Noam - you apologized to Kent and so did I. Obviously he wants to just keep it
going on. I don't know why. I'm going to ignore him and I suggest you do the
same. |
|8/6/05 04:24:59 AM|Massimo |Roma||cini_massimo@libero.it||||10|Noam-I
know for sure that Massimo Baer died of heart failure but I don't know any (or
the) details (where he was, what he was doing etc.).|
|8/6/05 02:03:30 PM|Italian Stallion|Philly||Unknown||||10|I used to know a guy
named Don Warner that talked about fighting in the past. Now I see the dude
fought Muhammad Ali?? Maybe I should have listened to him!|
|8/6/05 05:48:35 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|Massimo - thanks. I am trying to find
out whether the story is true about Baer, or whether it's just an urban myth.
I've seen it printed in newspapers a couple of times.What's your opinion
of Larry Holmes, Massimo. I agree with what Angelo said that Holmes suffered
because he came immediately after the greatest show in boxing town ever (Ali)
and it was pretty hard to shine in that aftermath.He was tall enough at
6' 3.5" to say that size would never have been a hindrance to him, he had good
reach (81 in) and was very athletic in his prime. Of all the champions I've
looked at Holmes boxed more rounds in his career at 575 (7.8 rounds) a fight and
this is put in perspective when realizing that Ali fought 546 rounds, Louis, 429
rounds, Marciano, 241 rounds, and Frazier 214 rounds. Holmes had more stamina
than the lot of them.Holmes was prepared to take a risk. He fought
Shavers twice in 1978 and 1979 when easier tasks were available. Although we
know in hindsight that Ali was shot when he fought Holmes (albeit perhaps from a
bad reaction to medication he was on), fighting a legend like Ali was risky,
too. I think Larry would have stood tall in any era, especially given the near-
record winning streak before the Spinks loss.|
|8/6/05 06:11:15 PM|Pete|Cleveland||N/A||||10|Kent I have to correct you. You
chastised Gerry the vet for applauding Jane Fonda. But you chastised me for
leaving historical information out of my post. And you were wrong anyway in your
historical acessment (read my post again if you want, I am not going to reprint
it)Kent, you don't believe in war unless we are attacked. How did you
feel about Germany in World War II? Germany did not attack us. Was democratic
President Roosevelt being a policeman for the world? Kent, this is the
reason you have people on the board getting upset, you write posts that are
lacking objectivity, and your posts are flawed because of that. Everytime Noam
and Howard C reach out to you you bite their handYou are becoming
another Forrest, and you know what happened to him. |
|8/6/05 06:15:53 PM|Massimo |Roma||4||||10|Noam-I haven't seen much of
Larry Holmes in his prime, only the Frazier fight (Marvis not Duckin' Joe) and
the Scott Frank fight so I'm not a big expert on this subject. But,anyway, the
impression I got is that he was one of the greatest, obviously in the top 10,
maybe in the top 5. But to be sure I should see some of his greatest fights
against Shavers, Weaver, Spinks,Norton etc. He was one of the best technician
ever, with a marvellous jab. He had huge heart and huge recovering ability
also. I have seen him against Tyson, Mercer and Holyfield (a sinthesis) when he
already was his own uncle.I think Duckin' Joe (1971) against Larry Holmes
(1982) would have been a wonderful fight, style make fights and their styles
would have matched in a very cool way.|
|8/6/05 06:30:54 PM|Fan|USA||n/a||||10|So much for the "truce". For my part
I'll keep on trying.Howard, as you can see, I took the time to respond
to you. Was your invite less than sincere?Pete, please share. What did
happen to Forest?|
|8/6/05 08:55:11 PM|angelo|dc||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Massimo: Holmes takes
Frazier in your dream matchup. Holmes by unanimous decision or late round KO.
Now, in my 2005 dream matchup, I'm taking Leila Ali by decision over Smokin'
Joe.|
|8/7/05 12:24:31 AM|Noam|same||same||||10|Holmes with his tremendous jab