January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

or #3, I saw one on the web rating him as the best, this is pure nonsense. I
think people rate him high based on how they think he would do not on what he
actually did. However he did win the title at age 45 he has to receive some
extra points for that! |
|8/21/04 12:36:12 PM|Andre' Rene' Rousimoff|Roma||4||||10|How many fighters in
boxing history would beat a 1973 George Foreman more than 2 out of 10 times
without going down, going down ?|
|8/21/04 03:17:44 PM|Bob Bumbera|NC||renfbera@aol.com||||10|Maybe a 1921 Jack
Dempsey, a 1940 Joe Louis, a 1928 Gene Tunney, a 1934 Primo Carnera? Who knows,
what I'm saying is he does not deserve to be rated among the top 5 or 6 all time
heavyweight champions based on his record as champion. Now in fantasy land a
prime George may well have beaten them all. However, he crushed Frazier to win
the title, beat down "The King" then destroyed Kenny Norton. That's it. Then
he lost to Ali - of course losing to Ali is no shame. Had he beaten Ali, fought
the amazing battle with Lyle then destroyed Frazier again with a couple of other
contenders thrown in the mix, as champion, you could argue Foremans place at the
top. I don't think I could rate a guy who held the title for a year and half
and defended the title twice at or near the top of an all time list, I don't
care how awesome he appears. |
|8/21/04 03:56:30 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Sense some
people are being critical of Frazier's all time standing, then why not check out
some of Foreman's flaws as well. Like a lot of big bangers, in the
first phase of his career he had a tendency to punch himself out early by
throwing too many punches early in the fight expecting to score an early
knockout and when this didn't happen, he was exhausted by the sixth round
(amazing that in the second phase of his career, at older age and a higher
weight, he knew how to pace himself better and had good stanima). George
was also very hittable if an opponent survived the early onslaught at the start
of a fight. George also couldn't stand the heat, no pun intended about his
courage as what I mean is in hot climates he would almost be falling from
exhaustion (Zaire and Puerto Rico). The pschological aspects of hitting
George early, as in the case of the Ali and Lyle fights, was a key to having a
chance at beating Foreman, some knee bulkeling right hands by Lyle in the first
round are examples of this and they made Foreman realize he wasn't in for an
easy time so although he still pursued his opponents aggressively, he didn't
charge in with wild abandon as Foreman knew there would be payback if he didn't
show some caution. By not charging in as much, Foreman was extended to the
later rounds where his lack of stanima could be used against him, which he still
didn't have because he didn't box patiently behind his jab like he did in his
comeback at an older age.My point is that although the young Foreman was
an incredible fighting machine, he wasn't unbeatable and this along with Bob B
pointing out Foreman didn't hold the title for very long, shows that his all
time ranking deserves to be in the top ten, as not many people could beat him at
his best, he does not deserve to be at the top of the list. I would put him at
six or seven or so, always ahead of Frazier as he did beat him in the ring,
twice, who I would put at about number nine.Now if we could somehow
combine the young Foreman with his physical strength with the wiser, more
patient fighter at an older age into one fighter, what an amazing fighter that
would be! Remember, Foreman had good boxing skills and he always poccesed a
fine jab, due to his extensive amauter background, but he didn't always use
these skills in the first phase of his career as he preferred to rely on his
power to get the job done early most of the time. |
|8/21/04 04:27:10 PM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|Foreman was awesome even in the
Chuvalo fight ! George ( but not Edward ) was a very tough fight and George
Edward humiliated him. As an amateur he won a gold medal as easily as ( or with
the same ease ) I eat spaghetti. Italia b Cina 89-52 !!!!! Yao Ming, who ?
Giacomo Galanda is the Italian Wilt !|