January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

a negligent corner for allowing him to be knocked down six times in than two
rounds against Foreman. That fight should have been stopped after the second
knock down. If that had happened, then everyone would say, "oh, Joe just got
caught early and he never recovered," like Shavers did against Quarry, but the
image of Joe going down so many more times is etched in a lot of people's
memories and it takes away from a likely earlier perception that Joe was
devastating before the Foreman fight, which he was. At his best, Frazier was
brutally devastating, even for a brutal sport. He was just relentless. |
|2/22/05 10:21:04 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Kent:
That's a fair point about the image of Frazier going down six times against
Foreman--- being burned into our minds. I will say that it seemed as though
Shavers took a lot more punches from Quarry before going down, then took a lot
more and finished on his feet. Some of Foreman's knockdowns seemed to be scored
with one big punch, or a couple big punches that had Frazier sailing down face
first. Foreman was a devestating puncher and his show against Norton was every
bit as impressive, even though there weren't six knockdowns. But I still
disagree with the quality of Frazier's opponents being appropriate. Sure,
Bugner was good. But wasn't he still a safer play (for FRAZIER'S STYLE) than
someone like Lyle? |
|2/22/05 10:23:46 AM|Kent|same||same||||10|It wasn't that Frazier was
unapproachable by Shavers. It was Shavers wasn't deserving of fighting whoever
was higher rated that would give him a shot at the title because of losses to
Quarry and the immortal Stallings, and a draw with Young in a return match. He
had slipped in the rankings after his good showing earlier in 1973 when he had
knocked out both Ellis and Young, which earned him the right to fight Quarry,
who had beaten Lyle earlier in the year. The two highest rated fighters, Quarry
and Frazier, then met to decide who would get a title shot and Frazier won that
fight.Someone here says Frazier beat Quarry easily twice. But this
isn't true as anyone who has seen the first Frazier/Quarry fight would know. It
was a gruelling match and Frazier wore Quarry down in a slugfest over seven
rounds. It was because it was a difficult fight in their first meeting and that
Quarry was on a roll going into Frazier/Quarry 2 after winning six in row,
including the Lyle and Shavers fights that people thought it was Joe who was
ready to be taken but it turned out to be the other way around as Quarry didn't
show much and Joe had an easier time of it the second time out. The point is
nobody thought Joe had taken the easy way out going into Frazier/Quarry 2. |
|2/22/05 10:34:13 AM|Kent|Yucca Flats, USA||too lazy to write it||||10|I always
seem to think of things to say after i have just posted. I have to
point out that nobody ever thought fighting Jerry Quarry would ever be an easy
task. For some reason, Jerry just didn't have it anymore by the time of
Frazier/Quarry 2 and he should have retired after this fight. It doesn't take
way from Frazier's victory though as Joe seemed rejuvenated and he fought like
he had fought in his prime.|
|2/22/05 11:48:38 AM|Massimo |Roma||4||||10|Kent, do you understand why Frazier
fought Bob Foster ? I just can't, he wasn't in the top ten. Maybe his management
got the wrong Foster, maybethey meant Mac Foster. Try asking your 6'9"
friend in Boston, maybe he knows ! I know that Mac Foster lost to Quarry in June
1970, but he still was way more dangerous than Bob Foster and much higher in the
rankings. Mac Foster was big, had one hell of a right hand, had long arms and
was very powerful. He was a little bit slow, but still an excellent
heavyweight.|
|2/22/05 12:35:37 PM|Massimo |Roma||4||||10|Kent-Yucca Flats, legendary
! How far is it from the Staples Center ? And from Santa Monica ?|
|2/22/05 12:58:11 PM|Fan|USA||yes||||10| I am no Frazier groupie. Just took a
critical look at the record of "The Greatest" and concluded that the moniker,
accepted by many, is a undeserved (and ruffled a few feathers in the
process). By the way, does anyone recall how close Jerry came to a third