January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

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|3/4/05 03:38:42 PM|Fan|USA||yes||||10| Not to nitpick - but I believe Howard
is correct - the winner of Quarry-Frazier II, which took place in June, 1974,
was not assured a Foreman fight. If anyone was, it was Ali, who had beaten
Frazier in their January, 1974 rematch. When Jerry beat Shavers only a few
weeks before that in December, '73, Gil Clancy indeed claimed to have a Foreman
contract in hand, however the Norton fight was already a done deal. What
prompted Jerry's "Black Conspiracy" charges (which both he and Clancy later said
were just a ploy to get Ali in the ring for a lucrative payday) was Ali backing
out, on February 13, 1974, of a fight with Quarry scheduled for May. MSG was
planning to hold a press conference announcing the match the very next day,
February 14, when Ali abruptly pulled out. The obvious reason was the concern
that the "new" Quarry might spoil an Ali-Foreman blockbuster. Unfortunately,
instead of getting Ali in May, Jerry instead got decked by Joe Alexander, before
knocking him out. We all know what happened in the Frazier rematch the next
month. All of which strongly suggests that, as much as we Quarry fans would
have enjoyed it, Jerry was not about to beat Ali at the time. |
|3/4/05 03:52:36 PM|Fan|Fandom||Fan@Fandom.com||||10|Anyone that says that Joe
Frazier should have fought Earnie Shavers truly proves their complete ignorance
of the time period relating to the heavyweight division. Was Joe supposed to
know that Earnie would get dangerous in 1976 and end up better remembered than
the guy that kncoked his head off Ron Stander. Stander killed Shavers, beat him
all over the ring in the middle rounds. You guys don't know that though.
Ignorance supports your claims, however real knowledge will open your eyes.
Looks like Fan has some work to do still.|
|3/4/05 04:16:25 PM|Steve|N.J.||dmmsrm@comcast.net||||10|Hey,Mister
Appel,Sir,{I'm afraid to call you Kent cause your so pissed off!}I'm chuckling
to myself,in all the years I've been posting here,this is only the second time
I've seen you this mad!The other time was when you told KooKoo to go F---
himself!|
|3/4/05 05:49:14 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Fan:By
1973, the entire boxing world knew that Earnie Shavers was dangerous---the
entire boxing world, most notably Yank Durham. Please, Shavers was a heavy
puncher with stamina problems, but he rode an impressive KO streak into the
Quarry fight and was expected to KO Jerry as well---and it ended up being
another case of underestimating the talents of JQ. At the same time, by 1974,
Frazier was no stranger to early round knockouts, as Foreman knocked him around
the ring like a rag doll---point being that an early knockout can happen to
anyone and it shouldn't have made Shavers damaged goods in terms of a match with
Frazier between '73-'76. Far from it, what made Shavers undesireable to the
Frazier camp was the very thing that's been discussed the past few weeks:
Shavers' PUNCHING P-O-W-E-R. Between 1973 and 1976, there were combinations of
guys fighting eachother including Ali, Foreman, Norton, Lyle, Shavers and
Quarry. As for Frazier, the only ones in this group he ended up fighting were
Quarry, Ali and Foreman. Combined record: 3-4. That includes two wins over
Quarry and one over Ali---neither of which were considered to have one-punch KO
power. Foreman blew him out---Lyle and Shavers were considered to be slugging
power punchers, not boxers and that's why discussion of Frazier fighting them
didn't materialize. As for Norton, we all know by now that he and Frazier were
like Skipper and Gilligan, Blossom and Six, Arnold and Willis, Brad and
Jennifer---they wouldn't fight eachother cause they were sparring partners and
pals. |
|3/4/05 05:55:16 PM|Forest Ward|New York
City||raymccormack2003@yahoo.com||||10|Fan, I am afraid you are wrong. I never
said the winner of the Frazier-Quarry was ASSURED a title fight with Foreman, I
said the New York State Boxing Commision Boxing Commission made the stipulation
that the winner of the fight was ENTITLED to a title match. I never said that