January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

people under trains", hoping they "die slow and painful deaths", and then
writing stuff joyful of Ali's deteriorating health. That's not free
speech, as Fan stupidly argued, as it actually comes at the cost to the
reputation of the REAL Forest Ward who wouldn't enjoy those whacko beliefs being
attributed to him. (Imagine if someone was posting using YOUR name Kent without
your permission.) This aspect was explained to Fan by Howard and Fan's failure
to respond tacitly indicates his acceptance of that obvious notion.The
callous and spiteful stuff from Forest is what is offensive and wrong, Kent, not
attempts at humour like The Dead Parrot Jociety. If during your vacation you
come across the person using the name Forest Ward - you say you know him, you
might explain that aspect to him.I remind you, Kent, this is what the
imposter calling himself Forest Ward wrote on 06/23/05 in praising Joe
Frazier:"Frazier takes great pleasure in seeing Ali stagger around with
his hands shaking and not being able to talk. Joe gladly takes the
responsibility for a lot of Ali's bodily damage."Of course, you said
nothing to him Kent about this disgraceful post, and that is why others fire up
when you have the gall to criticize them for comments far less offensive. What
is more offesnive: The Dead Parrot Jociety stuff or taking "great pleasure in
seeing Ali staggering around with his hands shaking and not being able to talk."
Far from being the victim, Kent, your silence tacitly endorsed the cruel
spiteful callous jibe from Forest at Parkinson's Disease victims like Ali. By
comparison the comments that followed about Frazier were tame. |
|8/7/05 05:20:28 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|Massimo - I know I'll be accused of
being biased here, but I think that Laila Ali is way better looking than
Joe.Kent - despite my comments about you, I do sincerely hope that you
return here with a clear head ready for some enjoyable and insightful debate. |
|8/7/05 05:57:45 PM|Fan|Fandom||Fan@Fandom.com||||10|I think that Marvis was
completely mismanaged. Joe tried to turn him into a slugger and he didn't have
those kind of skills. Two of the most brutal knockouts were Marvis against
Larry Holmes and Mike Tyson. It was lucky he wasn't permanantly injured in
either of those fights. |
|8/7/05 06:11:07 PM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|Noam-I agree, Laila Ali' is
bona.|
|8/7/05 06:34:48 PM|Howard C.|Louisville||howardc@louisville||||10|Kent: I've
said it before but I know you are a decent, upright individual, who brings
knowledge and experience to this site and that's why it genuinely bothers me
that you are upset. However, there is a perception of double standards and
that's what Noam took a long time to say.Fan: If you can give me a
reliable quote from a published book or acclaimed writer (vis a vis 'Brutal
Artistry' and Thomas Hauser) that Senator Robert E. Byrd has completely
renounced his KKK membership, beliefs, and sympathies, then I will change my
opinion of him. Also, regarding Frasier jnr, Joe says that he threw him
in at the deep end against Tyson because it was big money that was unlikely to
still be there later. While I understand that idea, what he did involved a
monster (Tyson) and it was playing with his son's health. |
|8/7/05 10:29:25 PM|Fan|USA||n/a||||10|Howard - let's look for a Hauser analog
(i.e. a Byrd "flack", as someone else described the Acclaimed One). Wait -
who better than Byrd himself? We're in luck, his memoirs were just published,
in June! But you knew that. Unlike you-know-who, Byrd has been apologizing, ad
nauseum, for decades. He must have figured his constituents would be a bit more
discerning than the Champ's. Is he acclaimed enough to change your opinion
of him? Not mine. Noam, your concern for the reputation of the real
Forest Ward (it must be hard to keep track, there are so many - including me) is
touching. Here I thought you rode "Forest" like Zorro only because he was a
Frazier fan. But all along it was the identity fraud that set you off. My
apologies.By the way, I think the real Forest fought on one of Jerry's
undercards. Jerry Quarry. Remember?Noam, have you done any boxing?