January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

Tom for not acting out in the activist late 1960's, as well as dehumanizing him
to a horrible degree. Kent if you can respect someone who would use his fame for
such a purpose, you have your right to. I certainly have the right not to. Joe
was caught in the shadow of both Ali and Jerry when he fought them, Ali's
tremendous fame and politics, and Jerry's furvor created by his becoming the
great White Hope of his time. Joe never had the fans or media appeal of either
of those men, but proved to be a courageous fighter and a very good guy when
given his chance. What more can be asked? I'll always be a Frazier fan, I'll
never be an Ali fan, though I am cognizant that Ali was an unbelievably great
fighter and one of the most compelling personalities of the century... I cannot
comprehend the mindset that would call Joe a white n---, I think those were just
anti-Ali guys, I got some curious looks when I rooted for him because he was
black and I'm not, I never let that get in the way of my being able to see that
he was a good guy and a hell of a fighter. A great many blacks and whites have
been able to see good in each other since those days, one of the best things
sports have contributed to America.|
|12/26/03 07:32:46 AM|kookoo|ny||kookooclock000@yahoo.com||||10|JOE FRAZIER WAS
NOT IN ANYBODYS SHADOW, JOE FRAZIER WAS THE SHADOW :))))))|
|12/26/03 09:15:39 AM|Massimo|Rome||20-6||||10|Steve-Our country is not
a socialist one, it's a free, great and beautiful country ! Merry Christmas to
all of you on this site, and if someone of you will get married in these days...
Merry married Christmas ! Merry Christmas to Shaquille O' Neal, I don' t dare to
immagine how much he is gonna eat... Merry Christmas to the great Paul from
Australia and to my sweet and kind English teacher Roadscholarette too. |
|12/26/03 10:26:27 AM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Gerry, some
of the reasons I respect Ali as a person are because he showed a lot of courage
in the ring. The man has a lot of heart. Also, although I realize the Naton of
Islam did use Ali for their own self serving purposes, I believe the threat of
his going to jail was very real as the NOI was extremely unpopular with most of
America and I don't think he got a break from going to jail by being associated
with them. I think the mainstream establisment tried to stick it to him because
of this associtation. Originally, the government said he didn't score high
enough on the written test for the armed services to be drafted and then they
reclassified his status, why?Also, his religious beliefs were not just a
sham because as someone pointed out, he was a muslim back then and although he
is more in the mainstream now, he is still a muslim today.It could very
well have been that Ali, back in the sixties, feared the NOI more than he did
the government, so he went along with their plans. after all, when Malcolm X saw
the truth, that there is good in all groups of people, after praying with all
kinds of people in the middle east, including white people, he was killed when
he saw talked about this truth.Was Ali perfect, by no means and he did
do and say some hurtful things in the past but people can change and I respect
him for that reason also. If he really didn't believe in the NOI rhetoric that
whites are inherently evil and he didn't stand up against them like Malcolm did,
I understand this as rhe NOI may have tried to kill him as well. I do know he
doesn't spew such nonsense now and he hasn't done so for many years. |
|12/26/03 10:59:53
AM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Gerry -
Trash talk in sports is ferocious. Most players/participants wisely shed
it, like water off a duck's back. There's an old saying, "Those who the gods
would destroy, they first make angry." That's really true - make a person lose
their cool, and they usually don't do as well. Except for Joe Frazier. In some
people, pressure of any kind fans the fire, and they use the energy to focus
further. In truth, he probably did better. Both men were unbelievably tough, but
they seemed to go that extra mile against each other. We know where Joe's fire
came from. I wonder where Ali's did? He'd denigrate Joe as a Tomming idiot and
an ape (none true), yet seemed endlessly fascinated by him.Joe never