January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

people were willing to fight Ali at the time because of the politics involved.
So Ali had to take fights he could get. |
|8/28/05 05:44:10 PM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|What a coincidence, I have seen Ali'-
Quarry 1 on ESPN 2 days ago. I think JQ had a good second round (I scored it
even), but Ali' won the first and the third. The turning point was a jab by Ali'
in the third round that opened the cut on JQ's sopracciglio.I think
Ali' would have won even without the cut, but yes, the fight was getting
interesting.PS: as the time goes by Steve is missed on this site!
Where are you Steve ? In New Jersey ? In New York ?|
|8/28/05 09:30:53 PM|Fan|Fandom||Fan@Fandom.com||||10|Over the weekend they
showed a bunch of Tyson fights. He was so quick and powerful that all of his
early opponents had no chance. As he started fighting better fighters like
Ferguson and Tillis they actually hit him, but were both floored although Tillis
made it the full 10. The was to beat that early ferocious Tyson was to tie him
up on the inside. Even at his best he allowed himself to be tied up too easily.
Also you had to get his respect early and not just run. Tillis did a great job
doing both of those things and lost a real close decision. Mike's favorite move
was to duck under the jab, throw a hard left to the ribs then a right uppercut.
He sure was an offensive juggernaut at his peak.|
|8/28/05 11:01:10 PM|Kent|Murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com ||||10|Recently
Kevin Rooney, Tyson's former trainer, was on a show with another guest, I don't
remember who the other guy was, but the host asked who would win between Tyson
and some of the greats such as Ali, Marciano, and Dempsey.Rooney picked
Tyson to beat all of them while the other guest picked the others to beat Tyson,
prime verses prime. Rooney's argument was Tyson at his best was so fast,
strong, and such a hard hitter that he would be hard to beat but the other guest
pointed out how Tyson never really overcame adversity in the ring in his career,
an important intangible.Could Tyson at his best have come back to win
when things weren't going his way? Except for at least some difficulty with
fighters like Frank Bruno, Pinklon Thomas, and Tony Tucker, Tyson, even at his
best, never answered that question.|
|8/29/05 04:30:02 AM|Noam|same||same||||10|Pete - I'm at least four or five down
the pecking order here and that's the way I'd prefer it. I'm no leader (I get
myself in enough trouble without guiding others into it) and there are better
minds about boxing than me here. I have views, but I'm also here to
learn.The guys I bad mouthed (from memory) were Kent, Gerry, Forest, and
his man Fan. I regretted what I said to Kent (still do), what I said was wrong,
and I apologized accordingly. I never said a bad word about Steve. The
archives here will show that I only ever praised Steve and showed him respect.
If my disappearance would make Steve return, then I'll disappear, pronto.
Until then, I have some Tyson trivia. After Tyson was released from jail
in 1998 for kicking a motorist in the groin, his first port of call was the
slave section of Baltimore's Mount Auburn Cemetery. He visited the grave of Joey
Gans, lightweight champion of 1906 who fought 42 rounds against Battling Nelson
in a magnificent fight. Tyson (perhaps revealing he respects some others more
than himself) cleaned the grave up and made it look respectable.Tyson
next visited Joe Louis's grave in Arlington Cemetery to pay his respects
there.Tyson is as mixed up about himself as we are confused about him.
Consider his public utterances. After he lost to McBride he said at a news
conference, "You can't take away what's happened to me. I've been abused in any
way anyone can be abused. I'm not used to senstivity any more. Don't cry. I
don't know how to handle people crying anymore. I've lost my
sensitivity."A couple of days later, he said, "No one's ever had the
life I've had. Regardless of what you might think, that it's been grim and
gloomy, I've had a tremendous life."I suspect that the former is the
truth, that his life has been more abusive than tremendous. Childhood abuse of
whatever type may explain a few things about him. |