January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

super-sized heavyweights who have been shown to be better than smaller
heavyweights.I was trying to show koo koo that even now, when the
average heavyweight is somewhat bigger than they used to be (but not giant),
that a lot of smaller heavyweights are still having success in the division and
that people such as Joe Frazier could compete now and do well. I hope
you take the time to comment on Joe Frazier verses some NFL lineman!|
|4/14/04 06:02:48 PM|Massimo|Roma||Is Yao better than Wilt ?.com||||10|I have
never seen the second round of Ali'-Frazier 2. Was Frazier in serious danger in
that round ? I have seen the last five rounds and Joe fought very well, even a
little better than Cassius Marcellus.|
|4/14/04 08:24:22 PM|Pete|Cleveland||@thering||||10|"I hope you take the time to
comment on Joe Frazier verses some NFL lineman!"(QUOTE)Joe Frazier would
have no problem with ANY NFL lineman or any other pro athlete who thinks he can
jump into a ring and box. The toughman contests are a good example which were
mentioned earlier. These guys can't even execute a punch properly and run out of
steam inside of the first three minutes. Just because a guy is big and heavy
doesn't mean he can box. I have to agree that the smaller heavyweights are
more of a total package. When you consider the likes of FRAZIER, TYSON,
MARCIANO, CHARLES, DEMPSEY, QUARRY...to name just a few, as well as ALI, LOUIS
AND HOLMES, who were not exactly giants. These guys were key players throughout
the history of the heavyweight division. Although Joe was not one of my all time
favourites, it would be a mistake to under-rate a fighter of his profile. He was
the main event from '68 to '72, as was Ali during his reign and Tyson through
the middle to late 80's. If you look for one dominant heavyweight currently, you
won't find one. Today's champion(and there are many)is tomorrow's chump. They
come and they go, but they never seem to be consistent. Let's unify the title,
get rid of crooked promoters and we just might be able to restore the GOLDEN ERA
of heavyweight boxing.|
|4/14/04 11:38:46 PM|kookoo|ny||kookooclcock000@yahoo.com||||10|TRUE THE LINEMAN
WOULD NEED ABOUT 1 YR TRAINING, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM, LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE GUYS
THEY WOULD JUST OVERPOWER FRAZIER, HOW MANY BIG MEN DID FRAZIER EVER BEAT?
ELLIS, QUARRY, BONAVENA, SMALL COMPARED TO NOW, THINK ABOUT IT, IN ALL OTHER
SPORTS THIER BETTER, IS THERE SOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT BOXING THAT THESE PEOPLE
COULDN'T EXCEL, NO WAY. FRAZIER WAS GREAT FOR HIS TIME, THATS IT. HE DID NOT
HOLD THE TITLE THAT LONG, AS YOU COULD ONLY COUNT HOW LONG HE HELD IT AFTER THE
FIRST ALI FIGHT, NOT ELLIS, THAT WAS A JOKE:)|
|4/15/04 01:10:47 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|Was Buster Mathis small ? Was Joe
Bugner small ? Bah !Was Jimmy Ellis a joke ? He dominated Oscar
Bonavena, Jerry Quarry and Leotis Martin, while Joe Frazier dominated him
!Anyway, LYLE and SHAVERS would have been dangerous opponents for Joe
Frazier. |
|4/15/04 02:51:55 AM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com ||||10|Massimo,
Jimmy Ellis did not dominate Jerry. Ellis won a fifteen round split decision
over Jerry in 1968. It was a very close fight in which some observers thought
Jerry won.By the way, Jerry fought that fight with an injured vertebre.
He essentially fought Ellis with a broken back that wasn't discovered until
after the fight.|
|4/15/04 03:24:33 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|Kent-You know that I think
that Jerry Quarry was a great fighter even if not in the class of Ali',
Foreman and Frazier. He is a legitimate top 30 all time heavyweight but this
doesn't change what I think about the Ellis-Quarry bout. I have seen the whole
fight on ESPN, but round 11 and, very honestly, I think that Jerry won only
the fifth round. I have 9-1-4 for Ellis on my scorecards. Jerry wasn't brilliant
on that night, he almost never took the initiative. His best punch was a left
hook in round 13. I just don't understand how that fight was judged a split
decision. Of course, the fact that he was injured explains at least partially
what happened that night. I just wanted to make a point: Jimmy Ellis was not a