January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

of their ratings of the prior 12 months. That's why they say A N N U A
L.Kent - I began using the Ring A N N U A L rankings from 1966 onwards.
If a guy was ranked in 1965 or prior, but not after 1965, I didn't use his name
in my lists. This is a fair approach. After all, Joe fought Daniels in September
1966 and this was the first world class guy you listed for him. I've taken the
same approach.I've also listed all the names and the Ring A N N U A L
rankings and years beside them. Anyone arguing against these names aren't being
fair. The Ring Magazine is a fair referee and if it names them as being Top 10
annually then, obviously, they are world class fighters. And the years I listed
show that these guys ARE Joe's contemporaries. I've been more than fair.
And note that I listed all the names. I made full disclosure, which was
something Kent didn't do. Kent just gave us the figures and not the names.
Yet Kent still cries 'foul'. (This is the same Kent who considers Ellis
a great opponent for Joe in 1975. Ellis hadn't been ranked in the annual Top 10
by the Ring since 1971 but Kent says he was credible. Ellis hadn't won his four
prior fights and had been beaten by Lyle and Shavers, but Joe fights Ellis in
the 'Weekend at Bernie's', and Kent says it's okay because Jimmy was a killer
!).Pete - glad to see that YOU'VE stopped the name calling and have
FINALLY had the courage to discuss facts. My reasons are as follows:Kid
Gavilan - pay him more respect. He was never stopped in 143 professional fights.
He was the guy of bolo punch fame. He deserves the respect I gave
him.Whittaker - won titles in four weight divisions. He was welterweight
champion from 1993 to 1997.Leonard - title holder in five weight
divisions speaks for itself.Griffith - terrific body puncher, all round
fighter, had 23 world title fights when title fights really meant something.
Basilio - the 'action' man. Was involved in the Ring Magazine 'fight-of-
the-year' in 1955, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959. No one else has done that, have they
? Basilio also beat Robinson.Trinidad - had the longest uninterrupted
welterweight title reign ever. Great finisher. Even greater left
hook.Naples - Made 13 successful title defenses over two reigns. His
nickname was MANTEQUILLA. An assignment for you Pete ? Why did he have this
nickname ? |
|10/24/05 04:49:09 PM|Willard|East Coast||a||||10|Ha, look at Angelo, whining
like a baby. He can't let it go. He has to piss on Frazier's accomplishments
every chance he gets.The funny thing is, one of you guys posted
something like this about two weeks ago:"You can always tell who the
Ali-haters are because they say they rank Ali number one all time, and then diss
him."You guys are quite the hypocrites. "Oh, I like Joe, blah blah blah"
and then you take every shot you can at him. By the way, I saw the movie ALI,
and it wasn't very impressive. Angelo, Ali was unmarked in Manila? He
had huge lumps under his eyes, a ridge of bumbs across his forehead, he was
urinating blood, and he was nearly passing out in between rounds. |
|10/24/05 04:53:21 PM|Willard|East||a||||10|Holmes would have his way with
Frazier? Yeah, like the time they sparred and Frazier cracked Holmes' ribs?|
|10/24/05 05:02:10 PM|Willard|East||a||||10|Cosell, I still have the smile. I'm
proud of what Joe did. He took massive beatings from Foreman and kept charging
forward. He was hit 1000 times in the last three rounds of Manila, and kept
coming forward. And he did all this with 20/50 vision in one eye, and blind in
the other.|
|10/24/05 05:26:46 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|Lots of reading to catch up on since
I last visited here. Pete, you'd do better without the relentless niggling. It's
boring. Willard, you've already admitted that you hate Ali so no one pays
attention when you rant on against him, which is every day. Angelo, I
like your rear vision concept. Imagine George looking in his rear view mirror
after fighting Joe. What did he see ? Speed humps and plenty of them. LOL.
:)Howard, your list was enlightening. You named all the guys, the years
they fought, and the rankings The Ring had for them. All above board. Facts that