January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

getting old, but Hatton has beaten no one of real note. Sure he's had 38 wins
from 38 fights, but who has he fought ? Ben Tackie, who Tszyu destroyed, hurt
Hatton in the last round of their fight. And Hatton struggled to beat Eamonn
Magee (who ?).Critics say that Hatton decisioned Vince Phillips, who
beat Tszyu in his only loss way back in 1996. But Phillips was 39 when he fought
Hatton and I think Phillips got Tszyu on the only 'off night' he's ever
had.At 35 Tszyu has not got many fights left in him. So every one of his
remaining fights has to be a big pay day for him. He'll beat Hatton, no sweat.|
|1/16/05 09:10:30 AM|Bob Bumbera|NC||renfbera@aol.com||||10|Just passing
through...I think your right Noam, Tszyu would beat Hatton at this point in
their careers. Tszyu has too much experience. Shavers-Bonavena, Shavers can
hit for sure but I think O.B. would be too tough for him. Oscar could'nt punch
as hard as Ernie but Shavers ran out of gas after 4 or 5 rounds, O.B. could box
a little and stay out of trouble. Massimo....Roy Williams was 6'5" Wilt. Billy
Kilmer...now that was a quarterback! |
|1/16/05 10:42:20 AM|Massimo " Too Wilt" Cini|Roma||4||||10|Thanks Bob ! That's
wilter than Giorgio Eduardo, who is a 6'4" midget. Roy is 6'5", I'm 5'6", where
is the difference ?|
|1/16/05 06:35:22 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Who would
have won a 1976 J.Quarry-Bonavena fight?Both guys were past their primes by
'76, but with a little gas left. Assuming they trained hard and fought hard,
who would have won this bout?|
|1/16/05 08:15:28 PM|Tyrone Washington|Mobile, AL||TyTy||||9|1976, Shavers
DEFINATELY over Bobavena - here's why: In Oscar's last fight, also in 1976, he
was at 219, about 14 lbs heavier than his best fighting weight. He had recently
changed mangers, to a female, who knew NOTHING about boxing. Shavers was
getting better and better and had good management during this period. I too
watched the Bonavena-Frazier 1966 fight the other day on ESPN Classic, good
fight by two great fighters. I wish there was more information about Bonavena,
an interesting fella. I think his native language was Spanish, so there's
proabably not a lot of "interview type" information floating that would allow us
to learn more. Did anyone notice his hair-do in the Frazier fight, kind of an
"English Shag", new for 1966. I heard he got the name "Ringo" because his hair
was like that of the Beatles in mid-1960's. |
|1/17/05 02:10:57 AM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Angelo,
Bonevena actually signed to fight Quarry in 1973 but Oscar was injured in
training so the fight never happened. I would have picked Jerry to win the 1973
match up however, by 1976, Jerry had nothing left and if he had fought Bonevena
then, then Bonevena would have won this one handily.Newcomer Tyrone may
be right about Bonevena being on the downside enough to have him get beat
convincingly by an improving Earnie Shavers but I don't think Bonevena at the
time of his untimely death had slipped as much as Quarry had slipped by
1976.Jerry should have retired after after the second Frazier fight in
1974 or at least after the Norton fight in 1975, in which Jerry had slipped far
from his prime skills. What makes anyone think Jerry could fight at a high
level even a year after this in 1976?|
|1/17/05 12:08:21 PM|Angelo|DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Kent:He did manage
to rally and KO Zanon in '79---so I'm thinking that in '76, Jerry, if he was
motivated to train, might have had enough to beat Bonavena, who was also
slipping. The new poster made a good point though, that Shavers was improving
while others in the division were slipping, by 1976. It's interesting to note
that we're discussing a fringe Top 5 or Top 10 guy (at least fringe in '76---
though he became consistent Top 5 soon after), Shavers, many years after his
retirement, and I believe he would handle most of today's top heavyweights
without too much trouble. I'm impressed by Shavers because as someone pointed
out, he had stamina problems and even a slightly suspect chin earlier in his
career---but he worked hard to improve and brought an A-Game to his fights with