January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

probably similar in accomplishment---but Earnie Shavers is either the #1 or #2
all-time hardest puncher in boxing history. Rahman has a decent punch, but Bob,
he's not close to Earnie Shavers in this respect. I think it's a bit of a cop-
out to say that Holmes came back to win his fights and Lewis didn't---because
the referee wouldn't let him. Also, if fights were still 15 rounds, I wonder if
Lewis would be more successful or less successful? He was well conditioned, so
maybe he would actually perform better in rounds 13-15??? But for my money,
Holmes had the heart of a lion and Lewis, while very good, falls short of
Holmes. |
|6/19/05 03:38:11 AM|Massimo |Roma||4||||10|I don't think Lewis was ready to
continue in theRahman fight; look at his eyes, he was badly hurt, I could
have finished him after that punch ! Besides that, Lennox fought a poor fight
from the beginning to the end. I think he was in slightly better condition in
the Mc Call fight, but I still bet that Oliver (not Hardy but Mc Call) would
have finished him.|
|6/19/05 04:31:51 AM|Massimo |Roma,Italia||4||||10|Who is this new character
"the Italian Stallon" ?Is maybe Kent ? What's your name ? What's your name
?|
|6/19/05 01:24:15 PM|Gino|San Leandro, CA||gmast49@juno.com||||10|Youse guys are
a great buncha mugs! I really enjoy seeing your opinions. I didn't mean to
belittle Caucasians. I'd also say Ali's middle class in the Jim Crow 40s and 50s
of Louisville was not exactly the middle class of Long Island or Southern
California. Black Americans spend lifetimes dealing with the dominant white
population, and are not as easily intimidated by them as, say, whites are by
blacks, in general. I'd still say it's hard to intimidate a kid from a poor
background with a staredown, in most cases. But I may be wrong. I liked the way
someone said JQ may have needed it as a way to get himself going. Who wrote
that long piece about the 60s and how boxers then are still perceived as the
bext? That was extremely perceptive and I thank the writer. The idea that
the 60s were best for heavyweights may be true but only marginally. When guys
were hungry in the 30s there were many excellent heavyweights, too. Beyond what
the gentleman said, I think the better 60s fighters looked even better to us was
that for the first time, modern advertising and PR overwhelmed us in touting
them. Remember how ABC-TV and Howard Cosell would get you believing for months
and months that when Karl Mildenberger or Henry Cooper fought Ali, it would be a
titanic struggle? What bullshit, but it was hard then not to believe it. I
think every decade had plenty of strong fighters in every division. Some decades
better, some weaker. Got to go, will be back later. Liston a bum? Holy
cow .. |
|6/19/05 02:05:28 PM|Massimo |Roma||4||||10|What's a mug, Sir ? I guess LA will
wait for me a little bit yet (or more). I ain't ready yet !|
|6/19/05 03:10:09 PM|angelo|dc||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Gino---I've never said
the 60's were the best---I've said the 70's were the best decade for boxers and
for heavies inparticular. Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Norton, Holmes, Young, Lyle,
Shavers---the champions and contenders were among the best ever. And beyond
heavies? Duran, Leonard, Hearns, Hagler---true, some of their best fights were
in the 80's, but they did start in the 70's. |
|6/19/05 06:22:19 PM|Kent|Murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Yo Adrian, I
am not the Italian Stallion. I have been off line since Friday as I was out of
town.Hey Massimo, are you Jumpity Bruce?|
|6/19/05 08:55:03 PM|Angelo|dc||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Kent: Welcome back!
We were starting to worry about you---Massimo thought you came in as The Italian
Stallion. I thought you had it out with James Toney and were left for dead in a
ditch somewhere. Glad you're okay. Lots happened while you were away, but to
summarize: Who would win Tyson vs. Liston?|
|6/20/05 01:20:59 AM|Massimo |Roma||AntonioSalieriwasamusicalgenius.com||||10|Hi
Kent ! I can be James Toney, Alfredo Del Vecchio, Antonio Salieri,