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January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

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|8/13/04 09:07:21 AM|Mike|Pa||Yammagamma||||10|who cares about the Eagles!!!|<br />

|8/13/04 10:07:35 AM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|I thought Holmes<br />

won both fights, especially the second one. |<br />

|8/13/04 11:23:41 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|John---if<br />

Holmes won the decision in the first fight, and matched Marciano at 49-0, and<br />

then in the next defense, against whoever challenged, won and broke Marciano's<br />

record at 50-0, do you think he would have retired for good with an unblemished<br />

record?|<br />

|8/13/04 11:26:19 AM|VIDEO POST|<strong>The</strong> <strong>Jerry</strong> <strong>Quarry</strong> <strong>Foundation</strong>||TJQF||||10| VIDEO POST<br />

#10Thanks to our friend Massimo for sending over a pair of<br />

Oscar Bonavena fights broadcast on ESPN Italy. This video post contains a rare<br />

interview (in Spanish and Italian!) with Oscar, Dundee and Cosell. Plus take a<br />

look at the Bonavena-Patterson prefight including Oscar's playful jabbing at<br />

Frazier. A Patterson-Bonavena fight clip coming next. Bonavena, Dundee, Cosell Interview 1966Bonavena-<br />

Patterson prefight 1972Play Video-->> 56K DSL|<br />

|8/13/04 01:30:52 PM|Fran|Philly||plc7755@aol.com||||10|In boxing if you have a<br />

heavyweight who can punch and also can get out of the way of punches and counter<br />

punch with power then you have a guy who is always in fight and dangerous for<br />

any opponent. That is why <strong>Jerry</strong> <strong>Quarry</strong> was such an exciting fighter and why he<br />

beat the very best. Some of these guys like Ernie hate admitting it. But he was<br />

that close and that good. He was better than Norton evrybody knows that. <strong>The</strong> 2<br />

fights with Ali were heartbreakers and if you followed it at the time you'd<br />

remember he was cut in what would be a no -decision now a days. Frazier is<br />

another story. So Ernie quit acting like you are a <strong>Quarry</strong> fan. |<br />

|8/13/04 01:43:45 PM|Ernie Laxalt|Reno, NV||elax66@aol.com||||10|Fran<br />

growls:"That is why <strong>Jerry</strong> <strong>Quarry</strong> was such an exciting fighter and why he<br />

beat the very best. Some of these guys like Ernie hate admitting it. But he was<br />

that close and that good. He was better than Norton evrybody knows that. <strong>The</strong> 2<br />

fights with Ali were heartbreakers and if you followed it at the time you'd<br />

remember he was cut in what would be a no -decision now a days."But Fran,<br />

cutting an opponent is a goal, something a fighter tries to do, especially Ali<br />

with his twisting impact blows. <strong>Jerry</strong> did not beat the very best. He lost to the<br />

very best. He was not close to beating Ali, Frazier or the very best. Your<br />

argument is the type that plagues this site, Fran. You're not talking about the<br />

<strong>Jerry</strong> of reality, but the better <strong>Jerry</strong> of your imagination, someone who in some<br />

magical way reigned as heavyweight champion. He did not. Jimmy Ellis did, for<br />

one version of the crown. That doesn't mean <strong>Jerry</strong> did, too. Don't rewrite<br />

history to fit your own hopes and wishes. We already said time and again that<br />

<strong>Jerry</strong> was a great fighter, an uncommonly superb heavyweight. But he was not<br />

better than Ali and Frazier and did not beat them. I think <strong>Jerry</strong> would be<br />

embarrassed if he heard you arguing that he was the best, that he beat all these<br />

people he didn't, that he was cheated and so forth. It embarrasses me. |<br />

|8/13/04 01:53:41 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Fran: I'll<br />

add that boxing insiders (including the guy people love to hate, Cosell) said<br />

that <strong>Quarry</strong> was among the best counter-punchers ever seen in the heavyweight<br />

division. That, coupled with JQ's legendary ability to take a punch and not go<br />

down or out, and his intelligence in approaching larger, stronger guys made him<br />

a great heavyweight---and I'll agree with Foreman, maybe the best heavyweight<br />

never to win the title. To me, when <strong>Quarry</strong> was well conditioned and motivated,<br />

only two things could stop him from beating most opponents: Slightly smaller<br />

than average size for a heavy, and he cut too easily. Those were his<br />

weaknesses, especially the cutting. Also, there's nothing wrong with the<br />

speculation of "ifs and buts". I don't think anyone here has said that <strong>Quarry</strong>

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