January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

|5/19/04 07:25:18 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Kent:I
don't disagree with you about the '75 Quarry having declined to the point where
Lyle likely would have taken him and in fact, Norton did. But let's remember
that even if Quarry wasn't the same fighter he once was, he didn't train
properly for Norton with only two weeks notice. That performance wasn't the
best he could have given. Ken Norton was a top five fighter---Quarry would have
required at least three months to prepare, not two weeks. Years later, he did
KO Lorenzo Zanon (though Zanon was well ahead on points when Quarry landed the
KO punch). Quarry looked so good in '73 and on this forum, we often talk about
him having a chance to fight Foreman in '74 for the title---and people here
generally give him at least some small chance of actually winning---it's amazing
to me that his skills detriorated so drastically between '74 and '75. You
brought up the Frazier fight earlier...I've got to believe that JQ entered this
fight as a live fighter, still dangerous. Do you think this fight itself was
the straw that broke the camel's back? I haven't seen the fight in a while, but
it occurs to me that cuts were what ended it more than anything else. At one
point, didn't Frazier and JQ stop the action on their own and just stand back
because of the cut eye? Joe Louis was in way over his head---what a ridiculous
idea it was for him to be overseeing this fight. |
|5/19/04 08:29:41 AM|Party Pooper|Here||ifelta@thigh.com||||6|Quarry's cut
wasn't why it was stopped. Frazier was beating Quarry like he was his daddy. Joe
Louis was an incompetent ref and should have stopped the slaughter earlier. |
|5/19/04 09:20:50 AM|Gerry Schultz|same||same||||10|Actually, I beleive it was a
vicious body shot that injured Jerry in his second fight with Joe. JQ looked set
to challenge Joe much better in that fight before he was actually dropped by
that punch. Kent, you mention Holyfield's recent record and make the obvious
point he should quit. Yet the same fighters who call for a pension and medical
help are still trying to duke at 40. What does it say about a sport that lets
former greats like Holyfield, Ali, Louis, Tyson or even Jerry get back in the
ring so they can be pounded? This is my point.|
|5/19/04 10:05:02 AM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Welcome back
Max Hord. It is very sad to hear about the fighter from your gym, as it is
always is when someone dies in the ring.I believe it is more likely for
someone to die or be gravely injured the less fit and the more damaged a fighter
is when entering the ring however, since boxing is a dangerous sport, it is
something that can happen at any time, to any fighter. All we can do is try to
make it safer by enforcing what rules are now on the books and also by making
new regulations to further that end. Another rule that Mr. Jimmy here
at TJQF favored being implemented is a mandantory expanded three knockdown rule
is which not only does three knockdowns in any round end a fight, three
knockdowns in any entire fight would cause the fighter knocked down to be
determined a loser by knockout. As brutal as boxing is, even with all
the proper regulations in the world, the sport would be much worse if it did go
underground if it was outlawed. I for one, if boxing was ever banned, would not
take part in watching or following underground, illegal boxing. At least with
regulations it is less likely for fighters to die or become gravely injured.|
|5/19/04 10:20:48 AM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Angelo, yes I
do believe the second Frazier fight is mainly what caused Jerry to not belong in
the ring anymore. After the first two rounds, Jerry suffered a tremendous
beating and to think he went through the same thing against Norton and also
Zanon, even though Jerry won that one, is distresful. On top of all this, the
fight in 92 at the age of 47 years old was criminal and the people who put it on
should have been prosecuted.Fighters only have so many fights in them
and maybe by 1974 Jerry had alread reached his limit and it could have been
George Foreman that Jerry could have looked good for a few rounds only to take
an eventual visous pounding on the way to a loss.1973 may have been the
time for Jerry to try to take Foreman. Who knows, maybe some of the hard shots