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had some funky hair, the first punk rock look.My buddy out from the<br />

Arizona Rez would differ with you about who the bad asses were. Our Apache<br />

brothers sure didn't mess around with no Geneva Convention when it came to<br />

prisoners of war. <strong>The</strong> soldiers or settlers who got scalped were the lucky ones<br />

as the southwest natives often would "stake" a captive out in the desert naked,<br />

with his eyes forced open all of the time facing the fierce desert sun. This<br />

would leave him in the open for the elements to slowly consume him.Most<br />

of my native blood is from California where our ancestors greeted the Momnax or<br />

ocean people, which is what they called the English speaking people, with open<br />

arms only to end up losing the land to the newcomers. To this day, English is<br />

called by this word which also means sailor as the first Englishmen they met<br />

were sailors.|<br />

|3/15/05 10:54:51 PM|Steve |N.J.||dmmsrm@comcast.net||||10|Hey Kent,no,in the<br />

early seventies,the Mohawks who came to our union hall didn't wear there hair in<br />

the traditional Mohawk "doo".If they ever really wore it that way? All the guys<br />

I knew had normal haircuts,but were very proud of their heritage,and would tell<br />

you about it in heartbeat.<strong>The</strong> guy I worked with was a biker.I shouldn't have<br />

used him as an example.He was an excellent Iron Worker,but a party monster<br />

beyond a white man's comprehenshion.|<br />

|3/15/05 11:00:18 PM|Howard C.|Louisville||howardc@louisville||||10|Yes, I<br />

screwed up, confusing Shavers for Lyle. I saw a photograph the other night with<br />

Holmes on the canvass and Shavers standing over him. It stuck in my mind and<br />

made me think Shavers put Foreman down. Mea culpa.Steve - I think Joe<br />

was only able to really lift himself for Ali by the time of the Thrilla. He<br />

hated Muhammad so much he lifted for him. I consider Frazier was all but shot at<br />

that stage, and that Ali was part of the way to being shot, too. <strong>The</strong> Thrilla<br />

completely finished Joe off.That fight was something special. I think<br />

the fight was more the result of attitude, rather than either man being at their<br />

physical peaks. Monty Pythons was hilarious and I remember the scene you<br />

say. Those guys were crazy. Do you remember the Goodies ?Angelo - a lot<br />

of the stuff with Frazier is guess work because of the gaps in his resume. Out<br />

of all the guys whose fans claim them to be in the top elite, he has more holes<br />

than anyone else. Louis fought all the great contenders of his era. So did<br />

Marciano. And Ali, Holmes, and the list goes on.But Frazier didn't. We<br />

can try and guess the results of the fights he didn't have, but they are only<br />

guesses. I believe that had Frazier fought the guys he didn't fight after Ali 1,<br />

he would have lost several and his record would have lost some more of its<br />

gloss. <strong>The</strong> common fact that the guys he missed were punchers, gives us<br />

a clue he was ducking punchers. <strong>The</strong> fact that Foreman knocked him down so many<br />

times (added to the Bruce knockdown and Bonavena knockdowns) gives us further<br />

circumstantial evidence of that.<strong>The</strong>n add the fact that we see the<br />

commonality in Frazier chose non-punchers like Stander and Daniels, and we are<br />

starting to get a concrete feel about what really happened.And then we<br />

assess his record and see that he was hardly taking any fights, add in that he<br />

lost 4 of his last 10 fights and, in my opinion, his goose is cooked. It wasn't<br />

an accident he didn't fight those guys.Q: What sits on the bottom of the<br />

ocean with six guns ready to blow your head off ?A: Billy <strong>The</strong> Squid !<br />

Sorry.|<br />

|3/15/05 11:15:50 PM|Steve|N.J||dmmsrm@comcast.net||||10|Hey Kent,ever hear of<br />

the ,Lena,Lenapies? they were the native americans who inhabited New<br />

Jersey.That's not a misstype,Lena Lenapies.|<br />

|3/15/05 11:26:35 PM|Steve |N.J||dmmsrm@comcast.net||||10|Hey Howard C.,Thank<br />

you for apoligising for that billy the squid joke.Jeez, that was pretty bad.|<br />

|3/16/05 01:11:48 AM|Steve |N.J||dmmsrm@comcast.net||||10|Kent,so your saying<br />

that"Momnax",means,drunken Irish or English sailors who are here to defile our<br />

virgin wilderness?|<br />

|3/16/05 01:39:16 AM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Ever notice

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