January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

|9/22/05 02:21:08 AM|Noam|same||same||||10|To the really great champions, the
ones who love the sport and take the risks, boxing means more than just money.
It was about PROVING themselves the best by beating the best, not making
excuses, overcoming obstacles, accepting all challenge, testing limits, and
exploring new horizons. That's why guys like Duran and Monzon and Ali
are held in such high esteem. Money was secondary. They had the Who Dares Wins
mentality. That's their legacy and the reason they are remembered and revered.
Study the careers of the truly greats and one thing stands out - there's no need
to make excuses for them. And they don't need to make excuses for themselves,
either. Great stuff !|
|9/22/05 05:17:52 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|Noam-You're right, my boxing
knoledge has some big and wide holes! I know very well the history of the
heavyweight division (even the details) and I hold my own with the middleweight
division, but I basically don't care about any other weight division. I think
that Bud Spencer (Carlo Pedersoli) movies are way more funny than Gianfranco
Rosi's fights. I don't think the only reason a champion fights is the
money. Champions often have a huge self pride and fight to prove they are better
than their opponent. I think that Ali' would have probably accepted to fight the
second fight with Joe Frazier for free, just to prove that Joe wasnot better
than him and that what happened on 8 March 1971 was due to Ali's long layoff. |
|9/22/05 05:25:39 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|Noam-I forgot to say that
another division I care about is the light-heavyweight division: Bob Foster,
Michael Spinks, Archie Moore, Harold Johnson etc. That's another cool weight
division!|
|9/22/05 08:18:57 AM|Kent|Murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Noam, Roberto
Duran's legacy as an all time great is tarnished by the fact that he quit in the
ring verses Ray Leonard in their second fight.Up until that time I had
thought he was the example of a warrior but the image of him waving Leonard and
the referee off and saying "No Mas" and of him walking away from the fight is
one that just won't go away.Say what you will about Joe Frazier being
carefully managed, but inside the ring Joe never quit. He would have gotten up
a thousand times after being knocked down before he would have admitted
defeat.I have heard people say Joe quit in the third Ali fight but that
was his corner's decision and the right one too. Joe would have fought on if
Futch hadn't stopped it.|
|9/22/05 08:20:17 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Noam---what
you say is true. I maintain that it's perfectly fine that Frazier stayed out of
the tournament, possibly avoided Lyle, Shavers and other power punchers in the
early 70's. If his mission was to prolong his viability as a Champion and
contender and maximize his earnings to take care of himself and his family, I
can't fault him. That's business. But the trade-off, as I have always
maintained, is that guys like me get to second guess him----we get to say
Shavers would have bombed him out or Lyle would have gutted him. Would have,
could have, should have----as they say, "If ifs and buts were candy and nuts oh
what a party we'd have." There are a lot of ifs, should haves and could haves
surrounding Frazier, that detract from his overall place in boxing history. A
strong champion? Definitely. Involved in a few great fights? Certainly. On a
level with the "no excuses" group? No, not by a long shot. |
|9/22/05 10:53:36 AM|Pete|Cleveland||N/A||||10|Noam, why are you getting so
angry. I never demanded anything. You raised a point and I raised a point to
demonstrate the weakness in your logic. So as to be fair about it I asked you in
your own words to answer my question, and you tried to deflect it. I asked
again, I did not demand anything. Lighten up guy.|
|9/22/05 04:48:23 PM|JIMMY DORSEY|VENTURA
CALIFORNIA||RONNYRAINS@YAHOO.COM||||10|HELLO NOAM, THOSE ANNUAL RING RATINGS ARE
A LITTLE BIT TARNISHED FOR THEY ONLY SHOW THE DECEMBER TOP TEN OF THAT TIME
WHICH COME OUT IN FEBRUARY OF THE NEXT YEARS ISSUE, CASE IN POINT JERRY WAS