January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

man in history to hold three world titles simultaneously, but he almost won a
fourth when held to a draw by the then current middleweight champion. Armstrong
won the featherweight, welterweight, and lightweight titles in a period of only
ten months. If Armstrong was fighting today, he'd be heads and shoulders above
everyone else, an absolute superstar, and a freak to boot ! With Roy
Jones jnr, it makes you wonder whether going up in weights and then back down
again effected him. Now I'm not saying that he used steroids to put on muscle,
but athletes who have allegedly used them and then come off them (ironically
someone else named Jones, first name Marian) never came back the same. Who knows
with Roy, although he certainly dropped ability suddenly.Gerry - we'd
need confirmation from Massimo, but it seems that Italy lets anyone in. Tyson's
a convicted rapist so what's he doing over there. Many countries wouldn't allow
him in. Perhaps we should call him Mike 'The Pontiff' Tyson, given his aim to be
a missionary (or a porno star). I agree with what you say Gerry about
Tyson's standing in boxing history, despite his sad and humiliating exit from
the sport. I can't help but like Tyson. Whatever we think of the guy, he is
completely natural, warts and all. He says exactly what he's thinking, doesn't
try the spin or hackneyed boring cliches like so many other stars. I saw an
article recently where Tyson stated that he considered himself an abject
failure, a rotten person, etc. I feel sorry for Tyson. With his great ability
the story should have been so much better. Where careers of guys like Armstrong
and Louis provide the inspiration, Tyson's career sadly only provides a warning
to novices of what can happen if you go off the rails. |
|8/21/05 12:49:39 AM|Ed|Cicero N Y||mooseygoop@aol.com||||10|Pete very good!
You win a spaghetti dinner at Mass's house, but you got to bring your own
cheese!Joe Frasier was first to stop Chuvalo. He broke Georges cheekbone and
George said it felt like his eye exploded.Willie Pastrano beat Harold
Johnson as a sub for a sub...Ali credits Willie for a lot of his boxing
techniques, he says Willie taught him a lot. They had the same trainer, Angelo
Dundee.Noam, Thats an excellent point about Jones possibly being a
victim of steroids. I thought about his moving up to heavys might have been too
much for him but didn't consider the steroid angle. Also from what i've read
about exercise conditioning ....exercise is a double edge sword, over exercising
(and being in top shape all the time) can cause an athlete to age rapidly. and
we all know Roy is always in top shape. So "body wise" he might be older then
his actual 36 years.|
|8/21/05 03:56:43 AM|Massimo |Italia||4||||10|Si, unfortunately Italia lets
everyone or almost everyone in. We are too generous, actually. Regarding Tyson,
I think he got confused. He doesn't want to be a missionary. He wants to be a
porno star in the Third Wordl !PS1: actually today in Italia there are
about 10-15 real Italians and all the rest are foreigners. You go on the street
in Roma and can't help thinking: where the hell are the Italiani ?PS2: I
have exaggerated a little in PS1, but yet it's amazing how many foregneirs are
in Italia nowadays! And Italia is expensive like hell ! If Italia was cheap, I
wonder, what would happen ?|
|8/21/05 04:11:33 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|Ed - the funny thing with Roy Jones
jnr was that his chin went from being reliable to fragile almost overnight. It's
hard to understand.I wouldn't think that steroids would affect the
stability of a boxer's chin. So, even if he did use steroids, why did he become
so vulnerable overnight to being so easily knocked out. Roy went from robust to
fragile very suddenly.Sometimes you see boxers stay down appearing to be
knocked out in late rounds when they are actually too tired to get up, so they
give up and play dead. (I think Foreman was more fatigued than really hurt
against Ali, for example.) I suppose steroids could affect stamina to this
effect if you went from taking steroids to not taking them, given it involves
muscles and endurance. But would stopping taking steroids make a boxer's chin
less reliable ? Perhaps there is a psychological factor in the