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Ali was given credit for a great uppercut (which Futch said he didn't have), but<br />

didn't use it that much against JF. This would have been effective. Had MA spent<br />

time practicing the timing of uppercuts with Frazier's bobs, rather than<br />

clowning around, and playing rope-a-dope in the gym, he might have had another<br />

weapon. Frazier was practicing the bobs and weaves, in synchrony with attack,<br />

thousands of times, literally. That bobbing and weaving constanty is hard to do,<br />

particularly with a constant potential for, and execution to offense. |<br />

|10/9/03 10:36:22<br />

PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|That's ~left~<br />

eye...|<br />

|10/10/03 12:06:35 AM|Sonia Hathaway (<strong>Quarry</strong>)|Joshua Tree,<br />

CA||Sonia81@aol.com||||10|Hey Massimo, don't worry bout it, i'm cool with it.<br />

Just wanted to make sure things stay ok on here for all concerned ok. Hope you<br />

keeping checking out the site, everyone keep checking. |<br />

|10/10/03 02:30:32 AM|Paul|Sydney, Australia||PlMls4@aol.com||||10|Kent -<br />

managers are more of a controlling influence in young contenders, but in Joe<br />

Frazier's case he was a hardened professional and I do not think that anyone<br />

would have told him who to fight and who not to fight. <strong>The</strong> final decision was<br />

his responsibility. I also don't think that likely gate takings were a factor in<br />

who Frazier fought after Ali. I believe that fights against Norton (especially),<br />

Lyle, Shavers, and Young, had more money potential than 'repeats' against <strong>Jerry</strong><br />

Q (who he beat in 1969) and Jimmy Ellis (thoroughly beaten by him in 1970). So I<br />

think that there must be a reason other than managers and finances. In the year<br />

after Frazier beat Ali in March 1971, Frazier didn't fight again until <strong>January</strong><br />

1972 and then again in May 1972. He was out of the ring for nearly a year and he<br />

then only fought Terry Daniels and Ron Stander (heard of them ?). Ali on the<br />

other hand was back in the ring only four months after that first fight with<br />

Frazier and had two more fights that same year. In fact, after that first Ali<br />

fight, Frazier only fought another 10 times and got beaten in four of them. Yet<br />

after that first fight with Frazier, Ali fought 29 more times winning 25 fights.<br />

I have too much respect for Frazier's ability to say that he was 'ducking'<br />

anyone, but I think that the evidence shows that the first fight with Ali had<br />

more of a detrimental affect on his psych and body than it did on Ali. P.S.<br />

Massimo's sense of humour is not readily understood and I am sure he meant no<br />

offense. |<br />

|10/10/03 03:55:28 AM|Massimo|Rome||4||||10|I was just playing with the fact<br />

that I have foundin this site words that surprise me: Watcha, Betcha, aint,<br />

its instead of it's and even now boutinstead of about. This is a little<br />

different from the standard English they taught me at school ! I realize that<br />

sometimes I joke too much, it's my nature. I'm an Italian Ralph Malph<br />

!KooKoo-Why do you hate the wordl ? What's the matter with you ?|<br />

|10/10/03 06:12:04 AM|Paul|Sydney, Australia||PlMls4@aol.com||||10|Koo Koo - I<br />

enjoyed your last posting even though it is distracting me from watching the<br />

World Cup Rugby Union. While I am trying to concentrate on the Australia v<br />

Argentina game, I am instead visualising what a Mrs Koo Koo would look like.<br />

Your sense of humour is as kooky as Massimo's and that is good. I often wonder<br />

where Toby from the old Frazier web site went. I miss his sense of humour.<br />

Australia 11, Argentina 3.|<br />

|10/10/03 08:18:03 AM|Massimo|Rome||8||||10|KooKoo-KooKoo, you need a<br />

good sparking ! But the questionis: who is gonna give you this sparking ?<br />

You are toobig, too fast... You' re just too strong ! ))))|<br />

|10/10/03 09:37:30 AM|kookoo|ny||kookooclock000@yahoo.com||||10|i look like<br />

woody allen, i don't like to start trouble, i just can't be politically correct<br />

all the time, kent is a nice guy, but he's the type he likes to think he's a<br />

writer, artists, writers, actors, guitar players, all live in a dream world, in<br />

one which they don't work, dime a dozen thats what they are, try filling out a<br />

job app kent! you can use me as a reference, i'll lie for you. ahh time is at

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