January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

ignored my point.It's you guys not me who has the problem. I believe
there were great, very good, good and weak heavyweights in all era's. YOU DON'T!
ARRRRRRRRRGH! I feel like Charlie Brown. Kent I never said that Ellis,
Bugner, Chuvalo etc. were better than Quarry, Jim Dorsey did. I said that
Holyfield, Tyson etc. could (and most likely would) beat Ellis, Bugner, Bonavena
and other 70's boxers. I include Lyle and Shavers as well. You people really
overrate them. As for size. Byrd is 220 NOT 212. Byrd, Holyfield and
Tyson are considered small by todays standards but would be big in the 70's. In
fact little Byrd, Brock, and Holyfied are bigger than Quarry, Ellis, Bugner,
Frazier etc. and the same size as Ali and the younger version of Foreman.
See how times have changed in terms of size. Lamon Brewster is
actually bigger. He's 230. Roy Jones was 199 not 193. Check your facts.
Ruiz was 226 for the fight. It must be noted that Ruiz slimmed down. He did so
to be able to keep up with Jones' speed. Ruiz is usually in the 235-240 mark. As
boring as Ruiz is he too could compete with your precious 70's era.Let
alone Vitali who has skill along with size.|
|12/30/05 12:05:48 PM|For Your Info|Markhan, ON||FYI@yahoo.com||||9|Please
before responding READ CAREFULLY. You tend to just sprint through fast and then
answer even faster without really thinking. Take your time. There's no need to
rush. You end up claiming the complete opposite of what I said or
meant.For instance I WAS THE ONE WHO MENTIONED THAT QUARRY BEAT JACK
BODELL WHILE BUGNER LOST. I ALSO MENTIONED LARRY MIDDLETON TOO. SO WHAT WAS THE
POINT IN POINTING THAT OUT TO ME WHEN I ALREADY DID SO A MONTH AGO! See what
happens when you don't read properly. This leads to
misunderstandings.I stated that PEOPLE MAY SAY... not that I
SAY!.What I was saying was that people may argue that Bugner is better than
Quarry because he was more competetive (though clearly losing) against Frazier
and Ali than Jerry did. In fact people have said this. HOWEVER I COUNTERED
THAT others can make a point that Quarry beat Bodell and Middleton while Bugner
lost to them. So maybe Quarry was the better. As clear as this was you all
misunderstood and thought THAT I WAS STATING THAT BUGNER BETTER THAN QUARRY!
NO!NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! I DINDN'T SAY THAT! My point was simply
that both sides had merit. Since neaither ever faught each other we can only
speculate. Both arguments had validity however. Whew! I guess you're all
getting senile in your elderly ages. So maybe I'm wasting my time explaining
things since you'll forget anyways.|
|12/30/05 12:10:01 PM|FYI|Markham||FY!@yahoo.com||||9|One more thing. Buner did
better against Ali and Frazier PERIOD! That includes Quarry/Frazier
1.Saying that Quarry did better is bs. If you mean from rounds 1-4 then
sure but if you mean the whole fight than absolutly NOT! Nonesense. Bugner was
more competetive throughout the WHOLE fight than Quarry. After the 4th Quarry
was fodder.|
|12/30/05 12:28:24 PM|FYI|Markham||FYI@yahoo.com||||8|By today's standards
Quarry and Ellis were built up cruiserweights as well so Holyfield would have no
problems with them. In fact I believe it's Holy who's the bigger boxer.|
|12/30/05 12:49:51 PM|Angelo|DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|FYI: I was born in
the mid-60's, so I don't fall too far from your cut-off---and yes, there have
been some good fighters since '79, including Tyson, Lewis, Bowe, Holyfield,
Witherspoon---the list goes on. But for guys like Byrd and Ruiz to be on top
for so long---that tells me that there is a lack of dominating talent out there
right now. Look, on any given night, Buster Douglas could have whipped most of
the "golden era" guys we always talk about. Ditto for Riddick Bowe. But for
the most part, I don't think the modern age (90's plus) heavies have the same
competitive craziness that the 60's and 70's guys did. Just my opinion---and if
you look to the lighter weight categories, there are still amazingly good
fighters like Bernard Hopkins in this new era---guys who could light it up
against anyone of any era. But for the heavies, I just don't see it. |