January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

Frazier. Gerry Cooney, without all the racial pressure, was a better fighter
than he showed I think, perhaps top 25 material. Micheal Spinks was very good
and belongs with the above group. Schemeling is very underrated and was much
feared during his era. He is much closer to Norton than you think. He dominated
Joe LouisI, and Joe is #2. Ezzard Charles, to me, could be top ten, but behind
Marciano and Tunney who I have as top five fighters. Patterson was very good,
but I think Jerry was better and would have been champ if he'd fought between
Marciano and Liston. Classic guys like Corbett, Jefferies and Jack Johnson who
owned their era are, to me ,at least top ten. How good could Greg Page have been
versus what he actually did? thanks guys.|
|5/28/02 12:12:29 PM|Joe Krause|chicago||sadmspats@yahoo.com||||10|Norton wins
close decision, remember Schmeling beat Louis. Liston 2 round demolition of
Moorer. Sonny would have knocked his block off.|
|5/28/02 12:28:55 PM|Johnny Q|Phila, PA||johnqw@yahoo.com||||10|I'm skeptical of
any "all time" ratings of athletes that include people who were active within
the last ten years. Not only with the Ring ratings, but anyone who watched the
Sports Illustrated Century Awards could not help but see how very recent
athletes were stacked into the top numbers. The Ring Magazine's 75 Year Awards
also missed the mark as often as they got it. I don't buy the idea that
current athletes are superior across the board, which is what these ranking
suggest. A look back at the press over the years, and the all-time rating that
have been held since the Dempsey days, the fighters of each period are always
overrated. It's only years after they are retired and the next generation comes
through that we can have any genuine perspective. Especially if any of the
fighters are still active, the etched-in-stone all time ratings can suddenly get
changed? Case in point, the up coming Tyson-Lewis fight result will surely
effect the ranking of these two fighters. Should Tyson win against Lewis, his
rating goes way up, and Lewis's rating, already tarnished by Rachman, drops
considerably.|
|5/28/02 02:36:17 PM|Joe Krause|Chicago||sadmspats@yahoo.com||||10|I would like
to give my observation on the Foreman-Quarry fight. I have every fight on tape
that either has fought until 1979 that is available except 10 minutes of Quarry-
Machen which I will get soon. I feel very confident that Jerry would not have
lasted against George. Lyle and Foreman were not the same type of fighter.
Lyle was good, Foreman was great and that is a huge difference. Nobody could
hurt Chuvalo, Foreman had him visibly shaken. Nobody could knock out Frazier,
Foreman dismantled him. Foreman had those sweeping uppercuts that worked great
against shorter fighters. I love Jerry and am a huge admirer of him, but
everything I know points to Foreman. Jerry had great heart, but was very
succeptible to the jab that Foreman had. I have been at this site a long time
and am not a basher of Jerry. I have great respect for him, but wanted to give
my opinion. Pre-Ali Foreman would have lit Jimmy Young up. Foreman wasn't the
same fighter after that fight, his personal aura was gone.|
|5/28/02 06:27:03 PM|Evren|London||@||||10|Thankyou Joe - you speak great sense
- Foreman was a great fighter not another top contender ! Liston over Moorer in
a bout similar to the two Williams bouts.3rd round KO. Norton to win split
decision over Schmelling after getting decked late.|
|5/28/02 08:04:26 PM|Kent|La Habra, California,
USA||oriononside@aol.com||||10|Joe, of course you are not a Quarry basher as all
of the long time regulars know already. To the newcomers, everyone who has been
posting here lately is a very big fan of Jerry Quarry and are supporters of the
Quarry family. Joe, one of reasons I believe that Jerry would have a good
chance against Foreman, besides his performances agaisnt Lyle and Shavers; is
how Gregorio Peralta, a fighter with a counter punching style gave Foreman a lot
of trouble twice. Jerry had a similar style to Peralta except he hit harder
than Peralta. Joe do you believer that the Foreman that destroyed Frazier and
Norton was better than the up and coming Foreman who had trouble with Peralta?