January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

fitting to compare him to real fighers who beat real heavies with real skill.|
|3/11/03 11:30:25 AM|Bob Bumbera|NC||renfbera@aol.com||||10|I haven't been to
the site lately so I hope everyone is well. Steve! I see you moved to
Australia. I here it's a blast down there. I had a girl friend whose dad moved
there to pan for gold in the "80's. He lived on a campground in a tent. He was
a real nut bag but he said the woman were great. I just saw the re-play of the
Jones-Ruiz fight. Did anybody believe Jones would lose? Ruiz has nothing. He
should take his money and retire before he gets crushed. And how about Corrie
Sanders! It reminded me of the first Johannson-Patterson fight. (I might be a
nut bag for that comment). Anyway, the Jones fight proved nothing to me about
Jones that I didn't already know. He is the best fighter I've ever seen. There
is nobody at Supermiddle,Lightheavy or Crusierweight that can take him. At
Heavy he would be a longshot with any of the top five or six. I heard Max
Kellerman say he would beat Marciano. At 195 and the Rock at 188 I still think
Roy would have a hard time. Rocky would not stand there and beg to be hit like
Ruiz did. Nor would Joe Frazier or Jerry. And the fighters of old vs today? I
think if you were great or near great you would also be the today. And it is
also my be belief that if Louis or Dempsey were 25 or 30 today they would ba as
big as any heavy out there, Call me crazy. It's good to be back.|
|3/11/03 04:46:10 PM|Evren|London||@||||10|The sixties and seventies were the
best era for heavies in my mind. It is where size matched skill. Leading up to
that point you had skillfull fighters - Walcott, Charles, Patterson etc but they
perhaps did'nt have the size. Then the guys got bigger in the late fifties on to
the sixties and they still carried that skill but brought the element of size
with it. After the seventies the fighters got even bigger(especially 'round the
waist) but the skill lessened. The sixties and seventies; the pinnacle of
Heavyweight boxing.|
|3/12/03 07:05:39 AM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|EVEREN: My own
personal opinion is that once fighters go over 225 lbs or so, it is at the
expense of some other essential quality: skill, speed, or stamina. George
Foreman in his prime weighted about 220 and his power has yet to be equalled by
those forty pounds heavier. He was no Fred Astaire but he moved pretty well and
had surprisingly quick hands. I also don't know many guys who were stronger than
Liston and Tyson and they weighted less than 220 in their prime. Ditto Ron Lyle
and Earnie Shavers. |
|3/12/03 03:27:51 PM|Mike Stevens|Amherst, Ohio||brownss@bright.net||||10|Let me
write this carefully because I recognize that everyone is entitled to their
opinion.If Max Kellerman thinks Roy Jones could beat Rocky Marciano,he is full
of it...just finished reading a good book about Marciano and have watched many
tapes of him. NO ONE trained harder or was in better shape than Rocky, he could
take a punch,THREW more punches per round than any heavyweight and NO ONE
punched harder....it was a natural gift he had...49 fights, 49 wins and 43
knockouts including two wins over Walcott, two over Charles, Archie Moore, etc.
A truly GREAT fighter during a highly competitive era...these guys actually
trained for fights and were not overblown blobs....|
|3/12/03 03:42:36 PM|Evren|London||@||||10|Following from the last post I have
to agree - Marciano was one of the fittest, hardest and cleverest champions
there was. He is not given credit for his ring brain but he certainly knew
styles and how to beat an opponent! Talking of the training, I once read a
fascianting article on how Rocky would hide himself away from the outside world
when he was in training. He went(and his trainers) as far as to not read any
newspaper articles about the fight in the weeks leading up to the match as to
reduce any negativity being fed into his midset ! That is what you call
dedication. Alot of fighters from the eighties, nineties and 00's seem to train
in burger joints or with heavy weights. Watching alot of old time 40's, 50's,
60's and 70's fights I notice how little fat the fighters carried. Especially
from the fifties. Top contenders were lean and did'nt want or need to be 250lbs.