January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

espond (or to answer) the question. I'm a fan of both Ali' and Frazier, I have
Ali' above Frazier in my ratings, but my opinion of Frazier as a fighter is very
high.PS: I'm sad to see(or of seeing) that Steve is not come back. Come
on, Steve, let's talk about something!|
|8/26/05 04:29:57 PM|Gerry|Cleveland||same||||10|A few posters recently had
mentioned Earnie Shavers. This is a guy who, like JQ, never got his due. Not
winning a belt is probably part of that. But, like Quarry, he was better than a
lot of guys who did.Only a year or so younger than Quarry, he was active
well into the early 1980's.He had two wins over Jimmy Young, and also
beatJimmy Ellis, Ken Norton and Joe Bugner among others.Both he and
Jerry beat Dick Gosha.Shavers did have some funny losses, like most I guess.
His losses to Ron Stander and Quarry stick out hard against a rack of KO wins
early in his career. He also lost to Tex Cobb and James Tillis.He fought two
title fights back-to-back, Ali and Holmes.His first match with Holmes is a
great one to see. I remember Holmes hitting with everything he could, he even
tried a two-hand baseball punch, but no luck. Then Shavers dropped him like a
sack of spuds with one punch for a knockdown.Shavers, like Quarry, was very,
very close to being champ. His last fight, just ten years ago, was set in
Wisconsin. It's amazing, if he had finished off Holmes, this is a former
world champion with everything that comes with it.But since he wasn't, many
casual sports fans don't even know his name. A real shame.The guy was a huge
puncher. Thanks. |
|8/26/05 05:26:43 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Gerry: I
think Shavers second fight against Young was a draw, wasn't it??? Shavers got
better with age as he learned the craft. He still had plenty of power but also
improved stamina and patience. He fought very well against Ali and Holmes, two
of the best ever. He crushed Norton, a very good fighter. His loss to Lyle is
nothing to be ashamed of---and it was before he was at his best. |
|8/26/05 05:27:07 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|Fan - Brandy asked us to leave that
behind us and I have. I've said several times that I said things I've regretted.
But you've taken no responsibility for your behaviour. You do yourself no
favours accusing me of doing things that you yourself did, and continue to do. I
don't recall speaking ill of Howard and if I did he didn't seem to mind. Regards
Ali, it's no offence to be a fan of his. And if you look back, I've spoken about
far more diverse topics than him, including lightweights, trivia, etc. All your
posts seem to get back to me and my treatment of your man, Forest. Do Brandy a
favour and move on, like I have. Same for Gerry and his politics, which have
bored more on this site than pleased.|
|8/26/05 05:38:42 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|I have to set something else straight
having seen that Gerry posted that Howard is a liar for saying that Gerry had
questioned whether Steve is a Vietnam vet. This didn't ring true so I checked
the archives.Page 226 - 250, Gerry, 08/04/05 at
3:24.39"Hmm....where to start....Steve, I'm a vet. Are you ?
I've served my country, where you just talk tough and use playground
insults...."Gerry, this is what you wrote. Howard isn't a liar and you
DID question whether Steve was a vet. |
|8/26/05 06:14:25 PM|Gerry|Cleveland||same||||8|Noam, get a life.|
|8/26/05 06:26:36 PM|Gerry|Cleveland||same||||10|Angelo, I stand corrected, the
second Shavers-Young fight was a draw, I had it as a decision for Shavers,
thanks.Young was quite a 70's fighter also, his fight with Ali was just
great, I never saw Ali more frustrated.But again, with Shavers, more proof
of that guy's talent in that great era. Thanks.|
|8/26/05 06:43:19 PM|Pete|Cleveland||N/A||||10|A while back Noam offered to
leave the board. He asked anyone who wanted him off just say the word and he
would leave. Case closed Well, no one asked him to leave. Like it or not
Noam is in charge now. He is the "winner and new champion. Kent, Forrest, the
rest of the stooges have ceded to Noam the championship. When Noam was