January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

medium and Angelo's reported conversation really did happen. After all, facing
Ellis was like fighting the dead, so why couldn't he speak to them as well ? Now
we're getting somewhere.|
|3/21/05 12:54:33 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Okay then,
we'll have to replace "Yank" with "Futch" in my verbiage below!|
|3/21/05 12:56:47 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Question:
Speaking of trainers, what did Sam Solomon have in the "little black bottle"
during the first Spinks-Ali fight? He gave Spinks little snorts from that
bottle---was it just water? Speed? Coke? Spinks was super that night! |
|3/21/05 02:44:08 PM|Steve |N.J.||na||||10|Massimo,Quantem Pysics will
ultimately help to explain the theory of everything.I believe Foreman lost to
Ali in Zaire because a butterfly was disturbed in Mexico,and it caused excessive
heat and humidity in Zaire on the night of the Ali vs Foreman fight.What do you
think about Chaoes Theory? What about shapes in nature re-occurring from the
macro to the microscopic level.{ie.},a mountian ridge? |
|3/21/05 02:54:28 PM|Steve|n.j.||na||||10|Angelo,get real!What about Panema
Lewis? That's why we need a Federal boxing commision.Only the federal government
could afford to ,or have the resources to have enough people to police every
aspect of boxing,including corrupt prometers and trainers.Of course the
taxpayers would ultimately pay for it in increased boxing ticket prices,but
Ithink it would be well worth it.|
|3/21/05 03:02:43 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Steve: Or,
did Foreman lose because of the "loose rope theory" that gave Ali that little
springy cushion while absorbing Foreman's onslaught from rounds 2-7? George
punched himself out, while Ali's back rested on the loose ropes, and when
Foreman pounded him, the ropes absorbed some of the punch too. I've heard that
one many times. That, and some voo-doo played on Big George in San Juan, when
Young managed the win. Yes, it was heat exhaustion both times, but mixed in
with loose ropes and voo doo, George couldn't win. Now, when Foreman beat
Frazier the first time, it was voo doo as well---some kid with a Frazier doll
kept throwing it around the room, and well, look what happened! |
|3/21/05 03:05:36 PM|Steve|nj||na||||10|howard,to paraphrase a line from the
Dead Parrot scene.Joe Frazier was NOT knocked down six times against Foreman!"Ee
was just taken'a couple of rests".Howard,I,myself am proud to be a member of the
Dead Parrot's society.I would like to be recognized as dead parrot number
three.'|
|3/21/05 03:22:18 PM|Steve|NJ||NA||||10|Angelo,I'm glad your starting to show a
sence of humor about this really getting creepy argument.I acknowledge that Ali
was the better man that night in Zaire.I just put forth the opinion that Foreman
might have done better in a rematch in New York,in a cooler climate.Without the
entire population of the country shouting,"Ali,BOOMBAYAY",or Kill Foreman.I
thinh if Foreman had won , he'd have been lucky to have gotten out of Zaier with
his life,and he knew it. |
|3/21/05 03:41:24 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Steve: As
a young fan of Ali back then, I did not want to see a rematch. I think the
worlds came together for Ali that night and with some sort of divine
intervention, he got out of there not only with a win, but with a KO over an
invincible force. People were actually afraid for Ali's health---thinking
Foreman might hurt him badly. What a surprise he pulled (again) on the world.
But I thought his luck would run out in a rematch. Still, Foreman, to this day,
thinks he would have lost again because he was "too stubborn and too stupid" to
change his style. He would have gone after Ali again, throwing punches and
tiring himself out, and still without the patience, pacing and stamina he showed
in his second career. I'm not so sure. I think Foreman could have stalked Ali,
paced himself a little better, and caught him. On the flip side, damn it was
hard to KO Ali---he might absorb even Foreman's head shots, come back with
bunches of his own, and win the battle of wills. Young did it. |