January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

get some insight into Ali the man, not just Ali the boxer. You see how some of
his beliefs were shaped, for better or worse. There are some very emotional
parts of that book that don't have a lot to do with boxing. It's easy to
digest---probably written for highschool aged readers but still a good read for
a more sophisticated audience too.To piggyback on Gerry's comments, Jerry
Quarry won some fights in surprising fashion, that maybe he "shouldn't have"
like his shutout over Lyle and walk over tough Earnie Shavers. He lost some
that he should have won---those early fights, including Machen. He performed
admirably against two great fighters in Ali and Frazier---didn't have enough to
win but didn't back down either. And yes, Chuvalo was puzzling and Ellis was
just frustrating to watch---still is. Jerry woulodn't have held the title long
had he beat Ellis, because Frazier was in line for the fight after opting out of
the tournament (where he might have drawn Thad Spencer, who could have been
trouble at that point). But still, Quarry had everything he needed to beat
Ellis and let is slip away. It's still a fight that could have been judged in
Jerry's favor. |
|8/24/05 12:41:26 PM|Pete|Cl;eveland||N/A||||10|Noam, I don't think you are the
sole reason for people leaving the site. But from reading past posts over the
weeks I did see a pattern emerge.It seems that you, Angelo, and Howard C
are going a bit overboard about Ali on this site. You guys keep writing the same
things over and over again and again. It is like you guys can't write about
anything else. It does get quite boring. Ali is the most written about boer in
the world. You guys are not telling the people on this site anything they don't
already knowAs far as personal attacks go, to be fair about it, you are
alone in that category. I mean you labelled Forrest am alcoholic and a
homosexual. That is pretty heavy stuff. By doing so you insulted all the
homsexuals and alcoholics who read this siteBut, I think the main thing
is people are geting bored with all this Ali stuff.|
|8/24/05 01:33:26 PM|Kent|Murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Noam can post
here if he wants to. He is welcome here as much as anyone else. I said I
was taking a break from posting here for two weeks and my two weeks were up on
Sunday. I didn't say I was leaving.I hope Steve stays as well. I am
out of the loop so I don't know why Steve would be leaving or anything that has
transpired since I took my break.I haven't been hanging around on the
Internet as much in the last two weeks and I have actually got off of my "fat
can" and I have been exercising and eating better and I have lost five pounds,
only 100 more to go!|
|8/24/05 02:28:05 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Pete: It's
true that this is a Jerry Quarry site first and a boxing site next. I talk
about Ali a lot as he is my all-time favorite boxer. Often, I've written posts
about Ali as a reaction to other people attacking him---or I've written about
him to debate others who assert that he wasn't that great, he isn't a good
person, etc. He's an important figure of the 20th century that frankly,
transends boxing and sports---an interesting cultural icon who was divisive and
controversial, yet loved by millions around the world. In contrast, Jerry
Quarry had a much smaller but fiercely loyal following of hardcore fight fans.
I think of Jerry and Mike Quarry and I think of solid, lunchpale carrying, blue
collar fighters of the highest order. Jerry didn't get distracted by the parade
of politics and controversy that Ali was drawn to---Jerry just worked on his
craft. Just like people say "John Wayne, America.", I say "Jerry Quarry,
Fighter." One word descriptions that characterize these guys like volumes of
adjectives can never do. I think it's a tribute to Mike and Jerry that we
regulars carry on about the best fighters of their era, including Ali. It's
putting the Quarry brothers in boxing's most elite company. |
|8/24/05 04:44:45 PM|Gerry|Cleveland||same||||10|The Ali/Frazier thing here is a
little intense.But if people have left here, that's not the reason
why.It's all the unregulated namecalling. Simple as that.I never came